Which home charger will you choose for your new Kona or Niro

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Hi R P, can you link me to that other post? Can't seem to find it.. I would like to know why you decided against Charge Point, as I am also considering the Morec
Go to post#103 on this thread, pics and certifications for Canada.

Charge Point was too expensive, and didn't like that you had to subscribe with them and be connected on the internet. They collect and can sell your data to whoever they want, but don't pay you for it. The extra features are of no value to me, as I can monitor and control charging of the Kona through BlueLink.

Having said all that, since I bought my Morec, there are other choices now that I would choose instead. Specifically, an EVSE with adjustable current up to 40A and also voltage 110 to 240, so I can use the same charger at a 30A 120V RV outlet (with an adapter). There has been discussion about that, too, on this thread. Can't remember all the vendors, but I believe Zencar or Prime(spelling?) make such a one.
 
How has your charging experience been with the morec so far? Thinking of getting this once I get my Kona
It's been great, no issues at all. I like it so much I bought one for my work too. $422 CAD delivered to my door, can't beat the price/value.
 
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I just spoke with my insurance provider in Toronto (co-operators), and the rep spoke with the underwriter, who said that because TUV is recognized by the SCC, there would be no issue covering it in Canada as long as everything logical is followed. Meaning: have it installed to code, preferably by a certified electrician; if you see it getting hotter than usual, have it inspected and replaced, etc. You know, logical things you would do with any high-powered device. We specifically spoke of a scenario where the charger would malfunction and overheat, catch fire, and he said the house would be covered because TUV is recognized by SCC.

So while I am still considering the Morec (TUV & CE certification), I noticed today that there's a 25% incentive on chargers sold by specific retailers across the country. The 32 Amp Clipper Creek from Costco for 850 would therefore be $637, which really isn't bad.

Regardless of which one I buy, I will use my Costco Mastercard because it doubles warranties up to two years, so the 3-year warranty offered by any of these will then be 5 year :).
 
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I just spoke with my insurance provider in Toronto (co-operators), and the rep spoke with the underwriter, who said that because TUV is recognized by the SCC, there would be no issue covering it in Canada as long as everything logical is followed. Meaning: have it installed to code, preferably by a certified electrician; if you see it getting hotter than usual, have it inspected and replaced, etc. You know, logical things you would do with any high-powered device. We specifically spoke of a scenario where the charger would malfunction and overheat, catch fire, and he said the house would be covered because TUV is recognized by SCC.

So while I am still considering the Morec (TUV & CE certification), I noticed today that there's a 25% incentive on chargers sold by specific retailers across the country. The 32 Amp Clipper Creek from Costco for 850 would therefore be $637, which really isn't bad.

Regardless of which one I buy, I will use my Costco Mastercard because it doubles warranties up to two years, so the 3-year warranty offered by any of these will then be 5 year :).
Good to see the prices come down a bit for EVSE - now if only that embodied Amazon
 
I just spoke with my insurance provider in Toronto (co-operators), and the rep spoke with the underwriter, who said that because TUV is recognized by the SCC, there would be no issue covering it in Canada as long as everything logical is followed. Meaning: have it installed to code, preferably by a certified electrician; if you see it getting hotter than usual, have it inspected and replaced, etc. You know, logical things you would do with any high-powered device. We specifically spoke of a scenario where the charger would malfunction and overheat, catch fire, and he said the house would be covered because TUV is recognized by SCC.

So while I am still considering the Morec (TUV & CE certification), I noticed today that there's a 25% incentive on chargers sold by specific retailers across the country. The 32 Amp Clipper Creek from Costco for 850 would therefore be $637, which really isn't bad.

Regardless of which one I buy, I will use my Costco Mastercard because it doubles warranties up to two years, so the 3-year warranty offered by any of these will then be 5 year :).

I’ve had the Clipper Creek from Costco since early May. It’s a solidly built charger that works well without any bells and whistles. I am very happy with it and I like that Costco will stand behind it.
 
I’ve had the Clipper Creek from Costco since early May. It’s a solidly built charger that works well without any bells and whistles. I am very happy with it and I like that Costco will stand behind it.
Costco is fantastic when it comes to warranty.
 
I got one that plugs into my dryer outlet. Not the most powerful but does the job and I didn’t have to install anything extra. CoMes with up to 50ft cord. Takes 12-15 hours to charge but that works for me.

Late to this post (Kona owner 2months) can you tell me what charger you got? Similar logistics for me. Cheers!


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Just received a juice box 40 by mail. It was on sale for $741 and is approved by B.C. for rebate. It’s wifi enabled which I think will be important if bc hydro implements specific ev charging rates. They are thinking about it.
 
Greetings all. While you and I impatiently wait for our new rides, I thought I'd start my first conversation here with a chat about what would be your first, second or third choice of home charging setups for Nero's and Konas. I am assuming they will have similar charge requirements and connectors as they share many components.

I should also mention that this is specific to North America as we have split phase 60Hz. 240V service common to Canada and USA.

In my case I am considering installing a 50A/240V L2 charger, but I could see myself bumping that considerably as I have an extra 100A of service. My target will be 600km per week of range. I do expect slower charging to be gentler on the battery but if I can charge 2 nights a week to obtain that 600km of range I would be content.

An ability to log and monitor charge data on a PC would be great but what else do you consider to be make it or break it features one should consider when looking at charging stations.

Looking forward to your ideas.
Hi energ,
I purchased a 50 amp plug in unit primarily because I already had a 50 amp plug in my garage that I used for a welding machine. The downside is (at least for me) that the 50 amp evse can deliver 9.6 kwhrs and the Kona recognizes this. If you want to charge at a lower current the kona will use the 9.6 kwhrs available and step down from there.

The kona has 3 levels of current options starting with the obc max of 7.2 kwhs. To help with battery longevity, I like to use the lowest current setting. However, since the kona detects a 9.6 kw unit my first reduced level is 7.2 kwhrs and the lowest is 5.4 kwhrs. This means if I select max current I get the max obc current of 7.2 kw, but also 7.2 on reduced setting and finally 5.4 on minimum current.

It seems like I'm missing out on a third lower setting here. Maybe someone can chime in and let us know what the lowest current level is using a 40 amp evse.
 
Hi energ,
I purchased a 50 amp plug in unit primarily because I already had a 50 amp plug in my garage that I used for a welding machine. The downside is (at least for me) that the 50 amp evse can deliver 9.6 kwhrs and the Kona recognizes this. If you want to charge at a lower current the kona will use the 9.6 kwhrs available and step down from there.

The kona has 3 levels of current options starting with the obc max of 7.2 kwhs. To help with battery longevity, I like to use the lowest current setting. However, since the kona detects a 9.6 kw unit my first reduced level is 7.2 kwhrs and the lowest is 5.4 kwhrs. This means if I select max current I get the max obc current of 7.2 kw, but also 7.2 on reduced setting and finally 5.4 on minimum current.

It seems like I'm missing out on a third lower setting here. Maybe someone can chime in and let us know what the lowest current level is using a 40 amp evse.
What make/model EVSE do you use.The L2 - 3 level reduction seems to have worked here:
https://insideevsforum.com/community/index.php?threads/rv-adapter.6247/page-4#post-79250
 
That's interesting. Looks like a 30 A 125 v male trailer plug spliced to a 240 volt receptacle?
That doesn't solve my problem though. I'd still like to retain the 7.2 kwhrs in the event I need a quicker charge.
I'm guessing the minimum current on a 40 amp evse would be in high 2s or low 3s kwhrs. Which would be perfect for me since I charge primarily at night.
 
That's interesting. Looks like a 30 A 125 v male trailer plug spliced to a 240 volt receptacle?
That doesn't solve my problem though. I'd still like to retain the 7.2 kwhrs in the event I need a quicker charge.
I'm guessing the minimum current on a 40 amp evse would be in high 2s or low 3s kwhrs. Which would be perfect for me since I charge primarily at night.
I have a 30amp max GE charger on a 40 amp circuit breaker. It has settings for 12, 16, 24, and 30 amps. On the 30 amp setting I get 7kw on max. 6.2kw on reduced and 4.2kw on min.
 
I bought one of them last week and will be installing it next week after I install the 50A double pole breaker, with the 8/2 wiring and a nema 14-50R outlet. I'm looking forward to seeing how it works
You might want to go 6/3 wiring (even though the neutral isn't used for now). Then you are future proofed for higher amps, and an arc welder (with a 6-50R adapter). And I would start with a 40A breaker for now (to protect your EVSE).
 
Just received a juice box 40 by mail. It was on sale for $741 and is approved by B.C. for rebate. It’s wifi enabled which I think will be important if bc hydro implements specific ev charging rates. They are thinking about it.
With BlueLink on the Kona is the wifi capacity all that nevessary?
 
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