Recall 196 now shows on US Hyundai Recall website..

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Tony M. said:
I think it is a problem. First, there's no benefit, so why is the software letting it happen. Second, I don't think it's healthy for a battery to constantly add a trickle charge, whether from 99% to 100% or 79% to 80% (if you set the car the car for a max charge of 80%). I believe each charging cycle can cause degradation, so its harming the battery with no benefit. Third, it can be dangerous. It makes me uncomfortable to know that my car can be constantly drawing power. The possibility of something going wrong increases if a connection is kept open when it isn't necessary, or repeatedly reopens for an unneeded charge.

And imagine this happening if you leave your car plugged in for days at an airport or train station. Every day the car will initiate a new charge every time it drops down 1%. That's crazy.
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Every time there is a regen while driving, there is a charging cycle. They wouldn't design a car to do that if it was harmful to your battery.
 
I just tested my charger. When I turn on the power. It takes a good 15 seconds for the the charger to communicate with the car and energize and for the current to flow. I have received notification that charging is complete and I have received notifications that it can't charge ( because it already complete). This appears to be a notification glitch in the software not a charging issue, at least in my case.
 
I leave my car plugged in all the time. I have it set to time of day charging. Ever since I reloaded the Bluelink app last week I get a notification that my charging has completed at the exact time charging is set to begin (7:30pm). This is despite the fact that the car has been fully charged to its set limit for days without being driven. In the nearly two years I've had the car Bluelink had never once sent me a notification when charging was done. I don't believe it's charging at all. I believe Bluelink is just a piece of crap.
 
R P said:
Every time there is a regen while driving, there is a charging cycle. They wouldn't design a car to do that if it was harmful to your battery.
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I wonder if anyone has tried regen @ 100% SOC since the update. The affect may be less as a preventative measure, to decrease the possibility of over-voltage even with the small buffer increase of reported .5%.;)
 
electriceddy said:
I wonder if anyone has tried regen @ 100% SOC since the update. The affect may be less as a preventative measure, to decrease the possibility of over-voltage even with the small buffer increase of reported .5%.;)
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Even before the update I found that regen at 100% was spotty and highly dependent on temperature. At low temperatures, even with plenty of battery headroom, the car would sometimes disallow regen. At 100% it would sometimes allow it and sometimes not.
 
Wildeyed said:
Even before the update I found that regen at 100% was spotty and highly dependent on temperature. At low temperatures, even with plenty of battery headroom, the car would sometimes disallow regen. At 100% it would sometimes allow it and sometimes not.
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Yes that is a true fact, a test or some form of regen measurement (Torque Pro?) would be required to compare at a reasonable ambient temperature.
Based on of course similar measurements made pre-update.
 
R P said:
Every time there is a regen while driving, there is a charging cycle. They wouldn't design a car to do that if it was harmful to your battery.
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I think regen is very different from what happens with 220 service, but I get the point. Maybe I'm overreacting to the change. I do find it interesting the different views on blue link. The problems others have had I've never experienced.
 
Esprit1st said:
My car told me regen is not possible last week at 90% charge. But then breaking using the paddle still worked seemingly unaffected. [emoji2369]
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In your warm environment did you notice more regen previous to the update at 100% SOC ?
Maybe they missed the paddle thing:oops:
 
Esprit1st said:
My car told me regen is not possible last week at 90% charge. But then breaking using the paddle still worked seemingly unaffected. [emoji2369]
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It’s entirely possible that the left paddle hold reverts to the hydraulic brakes for safety if regen is unavailable. I suspect that the motor-actuated part of the master cylinder would handle this condition. But, it would also be clearly audible.
 
electriceddy said:
In your warm environment did you notice more regen previous to the update at 100% SOC ?
Maybe they missed the paddle thing:oops:
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Actually we moved due to me and my wife both losing our jobs due to covid-19. We're in New Mexico now and currently it's pretty chilly here, but I don't feel like Regen is any different from what it was in Vegas or before the update.
KiwiME said:
It’s entirely possible that the left paddle hold reverts to the hydraulic brakes for safety if regen is unavailable. I suspect that the motor-actuated part of the master cylinder would handle this condition. But, it would also be clearly audible.
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I highly doubt that. I would have felt the difference and I'm pretty sure left paddle never activated the disc brakes.
 
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Genevamech said:
One of the things we're all trying to figure out if is the update affects charge times. According to the documentation the vehicle is supposed to pause for ten minutes at either 80% or 90% (depending on where it started) to do some sort of testing routine.

There are also a handful of complaints that charging speeds were severely reduced after the update, though those are a bit unclear exactly what the circumstances are. (Edit: this pertains to fast charging only AFAIK, which it seems you don't do so I guess don't worry about it!)

If your setup allows for data logging of any kind, people here would be interested to know if your charging is paused or takes longer than usual.
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Had the software update.
Fast charge at 42 kW. To 60%.
Then charge rate dropped to 34 kW.
At 65 or 70% charge rate dropped again to 23 kW.


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KiwiME said:
It’s entirely possible that the left paddle hold reverts to the hydraulic brakes for safety if regen is unavailable. I suspect that the motor-actuated part of the master cylinder would handle this condition. But, it would also be clearly audible.
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If conditions prohibit regen on my car the paddle does squat. Zero deceleration. It can be a bit of a panic sometimes.
 
So, is the fixed regen (1-3) slowdown effect also missing such that it just coasts?

I haven't seen the notification message appear myself but am rarely at 100%.
 
KiwiME said:
So, is the fixed regen (1-3) slowdown effect also missing such that it just coasts?

I haven't seen the notification message appear myself but am rarely at 100%.
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Yes. If I take my foot off the accelerator it just coasts. Same if I pull the paddle . I get a warning ding and a message.
 
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KiwiME said:
So, is the fixed regen (1-3) slowdown effect also missing such that it just coasts?

I haven't seen the notification message appear myself but am rarely at 100%.
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I had to reset the Auto Regen after the BMS recall, then everything was back to normal. But my ECO mode stayed with Regen Level 3.
 
Tony M. said:
I think it is a problem. First, there's no benefit, so why is the software letting it happen. Second, I don't think it's healthy for a battery to constantly add a trickle charge, whether from 99% to 100% or 79% to 80% (if you set the car the car for a max charge of 80%). I believe each charging cycle can cause degradation, so its harming the battery with no benefit. Third, it can be dangerous. It makes me uncomfortable to know that my car can be constantly drawing power. The possibility of something going wrong increases if a connection is kept open when it isn't necessary, or repeatedly reopens for an unneeded charge.

And imagine this happening if you leave your car plugged in for days at an airport or train station. Every day the car will initiate a new charge every time it drops down 1%. That's crazy.
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Does this only happen for 100% charge?

My recall was done.With COVID19,I haven't really needed to drive again so I actually need to charge with a lower SOC.I did notice my range "increased"above the EPA/Transport Canada rated range post the recall software update - positive. I am curious what's going to happen to me beyond this given the varied results. I will not be happy if my charge time's increased so HMC can protect their messed up LG Li-ion.

Comical.I asked the service manager how will I know if the software worked,what should happen,eg.range impact?" No idea."
 
I think in general Hyundai as well as most car manufacturers like to say as little as possible about their problems so as not to beg more questions. They also don't want to give their competition any ammunition they might use against them, as well as not divulge any proprietary technology.
 
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