Which home charger will you choose for your new Kona or Niro

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electriceddy said:
The reference was to the EVSE, not the car which of course is not in Canada .
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Oops, I read that wrong. Good question!
I really don't use the charger apps that much to monitor the car either. I usually just use the bluelink app.

If I use the charger apps (Chargepoint ex.) it's usually because I'm curious what the actual chargespeed is and when it tapers off.

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Esprit1st said:
Our Konas here in the US don't have WiFi. [emoji21]
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I believe Yellerledbetty was referring to the wifi control capability on the juicebox and the how control of charging can be instead be via bluelink(obviously via cell network) .
 
Yellerledbetty said:
With BlueLink on the Kona is the wifi capacity all that nevessary?
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not really, but if bc hydro does implement specific ev charging rates, I would think it would need to communicate with chargers, and that is basically the only reason I wanted it. They say on their web site they are looking into it, but what form it will take is unknown. If they just specify low rates for specific times, like many jurisdictions, wifi would not be necessary, but if they implement specific charge rates for EV's, they will need to know that a charger is installed and be able to communicate with the charger to set the rates for the power used. That would require wifi I think.
 
KonaTom said:
not really, but if bc hydro does implement specific ev charging rates, I would think it would need to communicate with chargers, and that is basically the only reason I wanted it. They say on their web site they are looking into it, but what form it will take is unknown. If they just specify low rates for specific times, like many jurisdictions, wifi would not be necessary, but if they implement specific charge rates for EV's, they will need to know that a charger is installed and be able to communicate with the charger to set the rates for the power used. That would require wifi I think.
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A reduced rate for those who have wifi capabilities is more than slightly biased, don't you think? If they want subsidize EV charging rates, a simple copy of the vehicle registration should suffice c/w a threshold or tier setup.
 
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electriceddy said:
A reduced rate for those who have wifi capabilities is more than slightly biased, don't you think? If they want subsidize EV charging rates, a simple copy of the vehicle registration should suffice c/w a threshold or tier setup.
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But if they implement ev specific charging they have to know when the ev is charging. Vehicle registration won’t tell them when you are charging. They probably won’t just lower your overall rate because are you own an electric car. Most jurisdictions offer reduced rates during low power consumption times rather than specific ev charging, and if that is the way they go then wifi would not be needed, but their website refers to ev charging rates.
 
KonaTom said:
But if they implement ev specific charging they have to know when the ev is charging. Vehicle registration won’t tell them when you are charging. They probably won’t just lower your overall rate because are you own an electric car. Most jurisdictions offer reduced rates during low power consumption times rather than specific ev charging, and if that is the way they go then wifi would not be needed, but their website refers to ev charging rates.
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The BC Hydro smart meters can tell what time of day and your consumption. That should be enough for a TOU set up which would be fair for all, a lot better than the tiered setup now being used.
https://app.bchydro.com/accounts-bi.../electricity-meters/security-and-privacy.html
The shift to green energy has been hindered by the 2 tiered system as most can't afford (our zone is not bad ) the increased step 2 rates and have turned back to natural gas to heat their homes.
You can review the tariff regulations here (first pdf 2.3 mb):
https://www.bchydro.com/about/plann...ctric-tariff.html?WT.mc_id=rd_electric_tariff
including all amendments.
I agree they won't lower the overall rate just because you own an EV , but there are systems in place without the increased costs of networking that will provide a suitable solution for everyone.;)
 
I ended up purchasing a Morec 32A charger off Amazon, using my Costco mastercard, which will extend the warranty by two years (giving 5 year warranty, total). My insurance company said the house is indeed covered if anything were to happen, because it has TUV certification, and is sold in Canada, even though it doesn't have CSA certification. The electrical work is being done tomorrow. I figure since I'm running a conduit up to the garage, it would be easy to upgrade down the road if we ever wanted to actually have a higher amperage charger, if necessary.
 
robxb said:
I ended up purchasing a Morec 32A charger off Amazon, using my Costco mastercard, which will extend the warranty by two years (giving 5 year warranty, total). My insurance company said the house is indeed covered if anything were to happen, because it has TUV certification, and is sold in Canada, even though it doesn't have CSA certification. The electrical work is being done tomorrow. I figure since I'm running a conduit up to the garage, it would be easy to upgrade down the road if we ever wanted to actually have a higher amperage charger, if necessary.
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That's the one I have, and I have confirmed that it also works at 120V using an RV adapter that I made myself. So I can get up to 30A charging even with 120V. Will be good to use in campgrounds.
 
XtsKonaTrooper said:
^^^^^
Right on...thanks alot.
I guess you had the parts shipped to a us addy?
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Yeah, I just live 20 min from the border, so shipped to a mailbox in Blaine WA. I just watch the webcam when there is no border line-up and then hop across. Even in USD, it is usually cheaper (but not always) than buy/shipping in CAD.

At the time I bought, the plug was $4 USD, and the RV dog bone was $7.93. Sort of have to watch and wait until you see a good deal on Amazon.

Nice thing about the EV now, is don't count the cost of gas anymore as all my charging is free. So don't hesitate to shop across the border or travel a bit for a lower price. Time is not money for me.
 
Last month, I got a JuiceBox EVSE because I wanted the convenient app-based reports as I track my kWh used monthly. I wish the app would allow you to have a kWh counter that can be reset. This way, I could record my monthly kWh usage and start it back at 0 for the next month.
 
I went with a JuiceBox 40a as I have extra power unused in the house, and decided I might as well max out the power I can deliver to my EV. But a month in, after learning more about recharging, I realize that the 240v 40a charger is overkill for the Kona EV, as the car can only accept 7.2 kWh AC, even if the JuiceBox can deliver 9.6 kw. A Jukebox at 240v 32a (which is a less expensive model) would perform just as well for my current vehicle.
 
JumpingIntoEV said:
I went with a JuiceBox 40a as I have extra power unused in the house, and decided I might as well max out the power I can deliver to my EV. But a month in, after learning more about recharging, I realize that the 240v 40a charger is overkill for the Kona EV, as the car can only accept 7.2 kWh AC, even if the JuiceBox can deliver 9.6 kw. A Jukebox at 240v 32a (which is a less expensive model) would perform just as well for my current vehicle.
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I consider it future-proofing. EVs are changing constantly. Also it helps with distance and cold weather voltage loss.
 
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Esprit1st said:
Definitely true and therefore a good investment.


Not quite sure how an oversized charger would help with distance or cold weather. The car gets charged the exact same as with a smaller charger.

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I mean while charging not while driving. If you've got a thirty or 40 ft cable at -35 you are going to get losses.
 
Wildeyed said:
I mean while charging not while driving. If you've got a thirty or 40 ft cable at -35 you are going to get losses.
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Oh, I see. I guess that depends on how the system is set up exactly. If the car says "hey evse, I'm only getting 6.95 kW, crank it up!". Or if the car tells the evse "I'll take 7 kW" and then the evse deliveres that and if only 6.95 kW ends up getting to the car, well, bummer.
(I realize that this is simplified but that's the point [emoji12] )

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