How to disable VESS (Virtual Engine Sound System) on 2020 (US)

Greg Elmassian said:
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I would like to buy the panel with all 4 buttons, but is there a left hand drive country that has the vess defeat? The panel is not the same between lhd and rhd.

Greg
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Me too. So far the ones I've found have headlight leveling (for LED lights) and/or don't have the lane keeping assist button. There's a version of the cluster that has a 12V battery reset button, that if is momentary might work if wires on the connector are sorted.
For the PHEV there's a version of the button cluster for charge cable auto- lock/override charge schedule that also has a fuel door release button. If that's momentary, it might make for an OEM-look install (with new label, of course)
If anyone learns more, please report!

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I hadn't thought about the non E versions of the switch panel. I have a feeling it is not going to be a simple swap. It occurs to me that the confusion that Greg found is due to for instance, the Federal Eniro uses the PHEV pc board with the switch deleted or some foolishness that would be hard to figure out from this end.
If you own the car, drill a hole in it and mount a nice switch.
No one cares.
Right now mine is just squished in the panel gap until I figure what to do with it
 
What is Federal? I guess I have lived a sheltered life... you mean USA?

Yeah, I actually might add the components to the existing board and make the dummy switch work. The issue would be it would niggle me to not have the indicator light, so need a cap with the ability to have the LED shine through.

Greg
 
I'm seeking the switch cluster shown in this video (with dimmer, LKA, traction control, VESS and blind spot detection buttons) haven't found how to order

Full part number would be greatly appreciated. Should start with 93700-G5



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Yes a Federal car is a car made to conform to the regs etc. Then there is a California car, which is above and beyond, but not so much anymore.
 
Yes a parts manual is frequently as valuable as a service manual. They don't appear to have one. They seem to need your VIN to order parts, so if someone with a LHD EU car could 'lend' you their VIN maybe your could order the part
 
From what I can find there's only one cutout footprint for the various LHD versions of the switch, and one physical connector for the back. Not 100% sure if switches with the same functionality have the same pin assignments at the connector, but I suspect they do.

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Nelson1994 said:
I did a lot of searching and could not find this for 2020 models, so I decided to tear apart my own Niro EV which I got about two hours ago. Here is how to disable VESS on the 2020 US model.

For the faint at heart: you have to partially remove the front bumper cover and it is a pain in the rear to put back. You will probably scratch the bumper cover around the lights like I did. I followed the guide here: http://www.kniro.net/front_bumper_cover_repair_procedures-1473.html


1) remove the 4 10mm bolts from the top support above the radiator.

2) remove the 1 8mm bolt from the wheel well.

3) remove the numerous tabs (4 in the wheel well, I think about 8 along side the bottom of the front of the car) - use a screw driver for this.

4) pull up and out around the light to release the cover.

5) unplug VSS wiring harness (see pic)

6) put everything back by going back to #1 on this list.
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I found an easier way to unplug the VESS speaker. On my 2020 Kia Niro Phev I spread the two pieces of plastic under the hood latch with some large deep well sockets or something that will spread it far enough to get your hand in. I could then stick my hand in and push the top of the plug where the clip releases it then unplug it. Do it on a hot day because the plastic will bend easier. NO MORE NOISE POLLUTION!!!
 
Nelson1994 said:
I did a lot of searching and could not find this for 2020 models, so I decided to tear apart my own Niro EV which I got about two hours ago. Here is how to disable VESS on the 2020 US model.

For the faint at heart: you have to partially remove the front bumper cover and it is a pain in the rear to put back. You will probably scratch the bumper cover around the lights like I did. I followed the guide here: http://www.kniro.net/front_bumper_cover_repair_procedures-1473.html


1) remove the 4 10mm bolts from the top support above the radiator.

2) remove the 1 8mm bolt from the wheel well.

3) remove the numerous tabs (4 in the wheel well, I think about 8 along side the bottom of the front of the car) - use a screw driver for this.

4) pull up and out around the light to release the cover.

5) unplug VSS wiring harness (see pic)

6) put everything back by going back to #1 on this list.
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One other way is to remove the black plastic piece under the hood latch but the screws are marked with paint so anyone can look and tell it has been tampered with. If you own the car I guess that doesn't matter though.
 
JamesS said:
Thanks so much RSB515 for sharing this info! Did the leads from the bypass switch fit easily into the fuse socket? I bought the cable and found them a little thicker than the micro fuse leads.
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Did you guys turn the switch off on the fuse panel when you did this? And did you also remove the negative terminal from the battery before doing this?
 
Thank you rsb515 for that idea! I hate so much there is no volume, I have to reverse out my driveway very early some mornings.
 
ENirogus said:
SO I cannot lay my hand on EM11, but I did find JM03. There are several one sided connectors up under the dash above the drivers left knee, pushed into black plastic hangers. They are just terminations, and one of them is JM03 with three brown wires and a bunch of grays. So that is a convenient pickup point for the reverse signal
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There is a slight gap right below the trunk opening latch and radiator in 2020 Niro EV. If look into this space, you will find VESS cable. Use a steel straw to push the cable lock which is facing towards radiator until you hear a click sound. that basically unlocks the cable. You can pull the cable right up to disconnect VESS. This took 2 minutes for me to disconnect. hope this helps.
Below is the link to purchase steel straw from Amazon. its $2.
https://www.amazon.com/Reusable-Str...t=&hvlocphy=9033301&hvtargid=pla-757290561104
 
It would be great if you took a pic of doing this for people who want to permanently disable it.
I am satisfied with the switch solution
 
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