How to disable VESS (Virtual Engine Sound System) on 2020 (US)

Discussion in 'Kia Niro' started by Nelson1994, Sep 21, 2020.

  1. tr6tevens

    tr6tevens New Member

    Me too. So far the ones I've found have headlight leveling (for LED lights) and/or don't have the lane keeping assist button. There's a version of the cluster that has a 12V battery reset button, that if is momentary might work if wires on the connector are sorted.
    For the PHEV there's a version of the button cluster for charge cable auto- lock/override charge schedule that also has a fuel door release button. If that's momentary, it might make for an OEM-look install (with new label, of course)
    If anyone learns more, please report!

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  2. ENirogus

    ENirogus Active Member

    I hadn't thought about the non E versions of the switch panel. I have a feeling it is not going to be a simple swap. It occurs to me that the confusion that Greg found is due to for instance, the Federal Eniro uses the PHEV pc board with the switch deleted or some foolishness that would be hard to figure out from this end.
    If you own the car, drill a hole in it and mount a nice switch.
    No one cares.
    Right now mine is just squished in the panel gap until I figure what to do with it
     
  3. What is Federal? I guess I have lived a sheltered life... you mean USA?

    Yeah, I actually might add the components to the existing board and make the dummy switch work. The issue would be it would niggle me to not have the indicator light, so need a cap with the ability to have the LED shine through.

    Greg
     
  4. tr6tevens

    tr6tevens New Member

    I'm seeking the switch cluster shown in this video (with dimmer, LKA, traction control, VESS and blind spot detection buttons) haven't found how to order

    Full part number would be greatly appreciated. Should start with 93700-G5



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  5. ENirogus

    ENirogus Active Member

    Yes a Federal car is a car made to conform to the regs etc. Then there is a California car, which is above and beyond, but not so much anymore.
     
  6. ENirogus

    ENirogus Active Member

    Yes a parts manual is frequently as valuable as a service manual. They don't appear to have one. They seem to need your VIN to order parts, so if someone with a LHD EU car could 'lend' you their VIN maybe your could order the part
     
  7. ENirogus

    ENirogus Active Member

    That switch looks different from the switch on our cars, I am not sure if there is a straight cross
     
  8. tr6tevens

    tr6tevens New Member

    From what I can find there's only one cutout footprint for the various LHD versions of the switch, and one physical connector for the back. Not 100% sure if switches with the same functionality have the same pin assignments at the connector, but I suspect they do.

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  9. ENirogus

    ENirogus Active Member

    Heh
    We is almost famous
     
  10. Smiley

    Smiley New Member

    I found an easier way to unplug the VESS speaker. On my 2020 Kia Niro Phev I spread the two pieces of plastic under the hood latch with some large deep well sockets or something that will spread it far enough to get your hand in. I could then stick my hand in and push the top of the plug where the clip releases it then unplug it. Do it on a hot day because the plastic will bend easier. NO MORE NOISE POLLUTION!!!
     
  11. Smiley

    Smiley New Member

     
  12. Smiley

    Smiley New Member

    One other way is to remove the black plastic piece under the hood latch but the screws are marked with paint so anyone can look and tell it has been tampered with. If you own the car I guess that doesn't matter though.
     
  13. superduper

    superduper New Member

    Did you guys turn the switch off on the fuse panel when you did this? And did you also remove the negative terminal from the battery before doing this?
     
  14. ENirogus

    ENirogus Active Member

    No
    There is not power to this circuit with the car off
     
  15. superduper

    superduper New Member

    Thank you rsb515 for that idea! I hate so much there is no volume, I have to reverse out my driveway very early some mornings.
     
  16. kri

    kri New Member


    There is a slight gap right below the trunk opening latch and radiator in 2020 Niro EV. If look into this space, you will find VESS cable. Use a steel straw to push the cable lock which is facing towards radiator until you hear a click sound. that basically unlocks the cable. You can pull the cable right up to disconnect VESS. This took 2 minutes for me to disconnect. hope this helps.
    Below is the link to purchase steel straw from Amazon. its $2.
    https://www.amazon.com/Reusable-Straws-Stainless-Cleaning-Tumblers/dp/B07QXKWP6B/ref=asc_df_B07QXKWP6B/?tag=hyprod-20&linkCode=df0&hvadid=343269713726&hvpos=&hvnetw=g&hvrand=16118803891621135695&hvpone=&hvptwo=&hvqmt=&hvdev=c&hvdvcmdl=&hvlocint=&hvlocphy=9033301&hvtargid=pla-757290561104&psc=1&tag=&ref=&adgrpid=71833457474&hvpone=&hvptwo=&hvadid=343269713726&hvpos=&hvnetw=g&hvrand=16118803891621135695&hvqmt=&hvdev=c&hvdvcmdl=&hvlocint=&hvlocphy=9033301&hvtargid=pla-757290561104
     
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  17. ENirogus

    ENirogus Active Member

    It would be great if you took a pic of doing this for people who want to permanently disable it.
    I am satisfied with the switch solution
     
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  18. I prefer to have the ability to control it, there are a lot of unconscious people walking through parking lots, even with the loud beeper. In these cases loud is safer.
     
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