How to disable VESS (Virtual Engine Sound System) on 2020 (US)

Discussion in 'Kia Niro' started by Nelson1994, Sep 21, 2020.

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  1. JamesS

    JamesS New Member

    Thanks so much RSB515 for sharing this info! Did the leads from the bypass switch fit easily into the fuse socket? I bought the cable and found them a little thicker than the micro fuse leads.
     
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  3. RSB515

    RSB515 New Member

    Yes, I had no problem inserting the switch leads into the fuse socket. make sure they are positioned in the same orientation as the micro fuse leads.
     
  4. Robert Besen

    Robert Besen Member

    Thanks for posting this, nice elegant solution. Can you use the fuse that's already in the fuse box or is that too big to fit in the cable?
     
  5. RSB515

    RSB515 New Member

    The fuse in the fuse box is actually too small for the cable. It is a micro fuse. You must purchase a 7.5 amp mini fuse to insert into the bypass switch.
     
  6. Robert Besen

    Robert Besen Member

    Great, thanks for the quick response.
     
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  8. Robert Besen

    Robert Besen Member

    I installed this switch today. It was very easy to install and it works like a charm. I cut away some of the plastic tube that comes on the cable to make it easier to fit behind the fuse panel cover. And fortuitously, the switch fits very well in the fuse panel cover slot and you can use the plastic nut that comes on the switch to mount it fairly rigidly to the panel cover.

    Thanks again to RSB515.
     
  9. JamesS

    JamesS New Member

    Thanks again RSB515. Very happy with this solution!

    Wondering in a half serious way if one could get the switch from Kia that disables VESS in the Non-US models and wire and mount it with the referenced cable.
     
  10. Robert Besen

    Robert Besen Member

    I think JamesS is talking about getting the factory switch from Kia and retrofitting it to the fuse bypass cable. Then you could mount it in the blank switch location above the fuse panel. I think it's a good idea, but it would have to be a single pole, single throw switch, rather than a momentary push button.
     
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  12. Sorry, you are right, did not read carefully...

    Yeah, probably a way, but those switches are momentary, so you would need a little circuitry to toggle a little flip flop or 555 timer chip and then a relay, so it could become a bit of a task.

    Do-able, but not simple.

    Greg
     
  13. Robert Besen

    Robert Besen Member

    Maybe a mechanical push on/push off switch could be found that would fit.
     
  14. Well, it is a module with 4 switches, finding a on-off push switch that would be exactly the same size and mount with the same profile would be tough.

    Did you look at the link and see the construction of the switch module?

    Would be better to make the little on/off circuit, again it's a 5 amp circuit as I remember...

    Greg
     
  15. Robert Besen

    Robert Besen Member

    I did look at your link (and thanks for all the info you present) but I don't know the spacing between the board and the switch panel. I just wondered if the right size switch could be squeezed in but I realize it's unlikely. I'm happy with how the switch that comes with the fuse bypass cable fits in the fuse panel cover.
     
  16. I see, you might be able to squeeze in a dome/membrane momentary, like in a TV remote, but a latching on/off takes significantly more depth.

    Could you drill out the space behind the "dummy" switch? Very doubtful, you would have to cut traces and wire around the cut traces at least on this side, and I don't remember what's on the other side...

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    So, as I work in the electronics industry, you would put a momentary switch there, and separate electronics to latch a relay on and off..

    A lot of work... perhaps buying the switch assembly for a car that has the switch, but it would be expensive of course, and you STILL would have to add electronics.

    Greg
     
  17. JamesS

    JamesS New Member

    Thanks for sharing Greg! I'm my mind I was thinking about how switches were wired pre-1980. I think getting in between a switch and the circuit board is more than I want to get into. I'll choose to be happy just that I have a switch within arms reach.
     
  18. Lauren Manley

    Lauren Manley New Member

    Thank you!! This worked perfectly and easily on my 2020 Niro LXS and I just flip the switch when I want to be able to back up without everyone in a 2 mile radius hearing me. Fantastic!!
     
  19. RSB515

    RSB515 New Member

    Glad it works well for you!
     
  20. Sindhu Rumpler

    Sindhu Rumpler New Member

    your advice saves my day!! The VESS is the ONLY thing I really really dislike on my car . I already look for parking where I don't need to back up, totally ridiculous. I ordered the switch already- Mahalo (thank you in hawaiian ) from Maui
     
  21. Sindhu Rumpler

    Sindhu Rumpler New Member

    Please tell me which number the fuse is . I don't see memory 2 fuse and there are quite a few 7.5 amp fuses. Thanks!
     
  22. hollycenations

    hollycenations New Member

    So I'm doing some research to try and do this fix... but in my owner's manual, MEMORY 2 covers Active Air Flap Unit and VESS. My vehicle is a 2020 Kia Niro LXS, and I noticed someone else on here said it worked on their LXS.. but I'm just trying to make sure I'm understanding what I'm doing before acting! Does this sound right?? Not to mention, I also see VESS under MODULE 4... :|
     

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