Tires (Summer/Winter/All-Season)

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CuriousGeorge said:
Would that include wear?

My car came with P7s, which are the first summer performance tires I have owned. They're grippy and quiet, I get good efficiency, and I'm guessing will last 30k miles. My plan was to just eventually replace them with more of the same, but your comment has me thinking I should explore all options.
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Wear is about even between the two. Both cars have about 15k miles. My main gripe with the P7s would be the ride. Seems spongy and exaggerates every road imperfection. The Goodyears just seem to roll down the road so much smoother.

Hoping for some feedback on Michelin Pilot Sport 5 before the time comes to replace the Pirellis.
 
SameGuy said:
I find the F1s surprisingly loud. Like dodgeball-noise loud.
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I’m on Hankooks factory OM Summer high performance they not loud at all I advise you to check tire pressure some people on forum inflat them 40 / 35 rear inflate them to factory front 35 rear 32 and you see a difference also if they 17 “ the wall of tire is narrower than 16” as I read everywhere a 16” have a bigger range and more comfortable ride if you overinflated tires they like riding on stones and if is hot from 35 PSI you have 40 at least PSI always inflate tires as they COLD
 
I'm on my 3rd set of tires with 37K miles in just over 2 years 2 months with the SE.

Original Hankook only lasted around 12K miles.

Oct 2022 switched to Bridgestone Ecopia EP422 Plus. These are not run flat tires with 70K mile tread warranty.

Apr 2024 I noticed the tread pretty low when rotating tires on the Ecopia with around 36K miles.
Discount tire said Bridgestone would give me credit towards new tires from the Ecopia since I wasn't near the 70K mark.
Switched to Bridgestone Turanza QuietTrack sized 205/55 R16, slightly wider tires with 80k mile tread warranty.

I noticed the cabin slightly quieter and less road noise but this could be because of new tires. Car feels more planted but feels a little bit sluggish.

Once thing I noticed was when I would drive through a school zone that has a speed indicator, my speed was always 3 mph lower than indicated in the car with the OEM size tires. Now with the slightly wider tire the speed is identical now in the same speed indicator.

I also noticed that since I've been on these new tires for a month, my GOM has been lower than previously indicated. I always go by % anyways but did notice this was interesting. I know in my previous Model Y Performance that I could choose rim sizes to recalculate range but the SE you can't.

I wonder if the ECU some how compensates this with different rim/tire sizes.
 
sousvide said:
my speed was always 3 mph lower than indicated in the car
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That's standard on MINI (all BMW?) vehicles, every MINI I've owned has been like that. Except my SE, which seems to match the actual speed. But I seem to be in the minority on that.
 
I'm still running the stock size 195/55 on r16 rims. Always about 2 mph under the speedometer. 37k after 2 yr 6 months. On the Firehawk Indys after wearing down the stock Hankooks. I'm looking for a new set of tires. Think I got about 19k out of the kooks.
 
2024 SE here with stock 205/45/17. Roads around me are bad, woried about potholes. I have a awesome deal for 4 winter tires used one season for $200, but same size as stock.

I would like to buy winter rims, debating if should jump on the used tires for $200 or get taller ones. Has anyone run 205/55 x17"? Should I go 16" instead?
 
16" all year long! My Nokian WRG4s all weathers are great. Very little range loss at summer/winter crossover temperatures. Pretty damn good on snow and ice. I am in NC, so the more all season bias of these works perfectly for me. If you are in the frozen wastelands of Canuckia or North/Central USA, you may want to go for Hakkas, instead.
 
Im sure I replied 20 or so pages ago, but to reiterate....

205/45/17 Yokohama AD09 semi slick track tyre. Drops about 10% range - who cares when the car drives *better* than a go kart with these things on. Not deadly in the rain, which was a surprise. I wouldn't want to try to aquaplane though.
 
Anyone can recommend white 16" light rims or has a picture of one? I have white roof/mirror caps and I think the white rims will looks awesome in the winter.

Are TPMS sensors Mini/BMW/German? specific or are they all finally standardized? All previous cars either didn't have TPMS, or were using ABS sensor (not precise).
 
Ssbg58 said:
Anyone can recommend white 16" light rims or has a picture of one? I have white roof/mirror caps and I think the white rims will looks awesome in the winter.

Are TPMS sensors Mini/BMW/German? specific or are they all finally standardized? All previous cars either didn't have TPMS, or were using ABS sensor (not precise).
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Any major tire chain can program their TPMS sensors to work with your MINI. Discount Tire supplied the sensors for my winter wheels.
 
Just a heads up for those of you that can shop at Costco and are looking for a summer tire: they have the Bridgestone Potenza RE71RS for $170/tire and the Firestone Firehawk Indy 500 for $140/tire (for 195/55r16). There's an instant rebate that makes the final price after tax/fees to about the same price per tire. Then, if you have or open a Firestone CC, you can get an additional $130 off in the form of a rebate CC card if you buy the Indy 500, which makes the price $107/tire. I think there's a similar rebate for the Bridgestones, but I didn't calculate it b/c I'm going to buy my second set of the Indy 500s. I'd like to try the RE71RS, but they're about 25% more expensive and have about 2/3 of the tire wear. The Costco instant rebate lasts until 7/21 and the Firestone/Bridgestone offer runs until the beginning of September.
 
RE71RS are autocross tyres. You will be stunned at the grip and handling, horrified by the wear. I hear that they are the least scary autocross tyres in the rain.
Go on, put 15s on, you know you want to.
 
pictsidhe said:
RE71RS are autocross tyres. You will be stunned at the grip and handling, horrified by the wear. I hear that they are the least scary autocross tyres in the rain.
Go on, put 15s on, you know you want to.
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I had the predecessor, the RE56 (IIRC) on my Miata years ago, and those things were flipping glue. So much fun for spirited drives once they warmed up. They wore out after 20k+-, and were horrid in the cold (both shocking, sic). When I was shopping for new tires, I saw the RE71r and how much gripper - and lower life - it was. Absolutely unbelievable. How could any street tire be that much gripper than the re56?. People were turning 1s quicker autocross times with the 71 over the 56! I wanted them, but I was in a different stage of life than I was when I bought the RE56. Ahhh well. !C’est le vie!

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Has anyone tried 205/50/17 on stock rims (ET54?) without a spacer? If not, any recommendation for a proper spacer? Have never dealt with one. Does it need to fit snug around the hub (or whatever the center flange is called) besides matching 5x112 pattern?
 
If anyone interested, I have 3x Hankook Ventus S1 EVO 3 (the OEM tires, 205/45/17) with ~6mm thread (exactly 6000 miles on them) for sale in Chicago area. One of them has a fixable puncture from a nail. Asking $200 for all 3, which is below price of one new ($270 + tax according to discount tire). Great of spares, if you are digging these tires.
 
Hmmm, I have these Hankooks on mine. Smart decision by MINI to put summer tires on a Northeast car delivered in winter...
Are these a bit puncture prone? Just had one of mine repaired too.

Ssbg58 - what happened to the 4th tire? What did you replace them with?

I'm still looking for a reasonably priced set of winter wheels and tires.

cheers
MacMini34
 
MacMini34 said:
Hmmm, I have these Hankooks on mine. Smart decision by MINI to put summer tires on a Northeast car delivered in winter...
Are these a bit puncture prone? Just had one of mine repaired too.

Ssbg58 - what happened to the 4th tire? What did you replace them with?

I'm still looking for a reasonably priced set of winter wheels and tires.

cheers
MacMini34
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I don't know what happened to the 4th tire. I got a nail in the 3rd. After seeing these tires off the wheels, I think I know how BMW/MINI got 4 extra miles on the 2023/24 EPA rating. They are so damn light (under 16 pounds measured by me), but also so thin, especially the side walls. And for what they cost, complete rip off.

For the roads in my area, I went with 205/50/17 (50R17 for search terms) for summer. Found an awesome deal on Nokian Powerproof (XL). Unfortunately, they required 10mm spacers when mounted to factory Roulette rims, kind of have bubbly side walls. Could have been fine with 5mm, but I was worried about the not wheel centric part of any spacers under 10mm. The range dropped with about .0.3 to 0.6 kW/m (bigger impact on highway) versus the EVO3. The speedoo is now only 1mph optimistic vs the factory 2.5mph (probably the range drop is smaller than the computer thinks as the car actually travels more distance than reported). However, the comfort improved big time. The tires also perform way better on wet (not sure if the fresh rubber makes a difference) and the front never squeaks in sport mode on dry (neither did the EVO3). I did manage to get the rear squeak at a very sporty turn, but nothing to worry about. Yeah, the drop in range sucks, but the comfort improvement outweighs it. The prices of the EVO3 is ridiculous.

Now I am looking for winter tires for my 16" rims. I checked some Michelin X-ice Snow in 205/55/16 - 22 pounds a tire with 7000miles usage. I am likely going to spend a big buck for Hakka R5 in 195/55/16
 
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