Kona is Good but...

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cmwade77 said:
Except Tesla will disable features via OTA updates, so at least this way you can simply not take it in.
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What updates have been removed from folks who paid for them?

"But aside from that, what tech features does a Tesla have that the Kona doesn't?"

It seems like Tesla has a number voice commands. How does your Kona compare?
 
marshall said:
What updates have been removed from folks who paid for them?

"But aside from that, what tech features does a Tesla have that the Kona doesn't?"

It seems like Tesla has a number voice commands. How does your Kona compare?
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Features that have been removed are Autopilot from used Teslas, sorry, but it was purchased on the new Tesla, so it was paid for.

I have all the voice commands I would want, not having played with a Tesla extensively, I don't know if they have more voice commands.
 
cmwade77 said:
Features that have been removed are Autopilot from used Teslas, sorry, but it was purchased on the new Tesla, so it was paid for.
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It was my understanding that the software not paid for was removed. Can you provide evidence to the contrary?

cmwade77 said:
I have all the voice commands I would want, not having played with a Tesla extensively,
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Well you did ask what technology was missing on the Kona that a Tesla has installed. I'm suggesting that the Tesla has more voice commands.
 
marshall said:
It was my understanding that the software not paid for was removed. Can you provide evidence to the contrary?



Well you did ask what technology was missing on the Kona that a Tesla has installed. I'm suggesting that the Tesla has more voice commands.
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The articles that I read said the original owner paid for the Autopilot feature a d Tesla said that the new owner had to pay for it a second time.

And as for voice commands, I honestly don't know, but I don't really call that additional tech.
 
Ronny said:
Over the air updates is a big one for me. Having to bring the Kona to a dealer for a software update is a waste of time!
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Map updates can be done without going to the dealer.

The BMS thing is the only one so far that has come up where a dealer update is required. For these sorts of things, the question is how much benefit there is to the car owner. Generally never new features - at best bugfixes, and if you aren't bit by the bug, then it gets hard to get excited.
 
For what it’s worth based on my two test rides with a Model 3 I would say the phone app is way more comprehensive and fast, the auto seat, steering wheel adjustment based on driver profile, the map software is way more intuitive and elegant. It’s not so much what the Kona lacks but more about implementation.
 
My son has a Tesla M3, and he doesn't even have Android Auto or CarPlay!! And his onboard nav is very poor. He still has to use his phone natively with Google Maps and Waze. I would say they are way behind the Kona and most other EVs on the tech that matters most.
 
I just read an article where a Tesla driver was banned from driving in Germany for a month because he was trying to change the interval on his windshield wipers and that requires going through 5 submenus on the touch screen and it caused him to crash.

Sorry, but quickly changing intervals is essential when it does rain around here.
 
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My experience with the Model 3 map and mapping software was completely the opposite. I found the interface near instantaneous, the routing efficient and the software intuitive to use. I believe it’s a variant of google maps. Granted my experience was only two hours total but I immediately understood what I needed to know and the gloriously huge screen was fantastic for seeing alternate paths in congested areas.

RP, not sure why your son dislikes the mapping software so much but he sure has a lot more experience with it than I do, maybe there are some idiosyncrasies that I didn’t discover.
 
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My experience with the Model 3 map and mapping software was completely the opposite. I found the interface near instantaneous, the routing efficient and the software intuitive to use. I believe it’s a variant of google maps. Granted my experience was only two hours total but I immediately understood what I needed to know and the gloriously huge screen was fantastic for seeing alternate paths in congested areas.

RP, not sure why your son dislikes the mapping software so much but he sure has a lot more experience with it than I do, maybe there are some idiosyncrasies that I didn’t discover.
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I think the M3 was sometimes rerouting him to where he didn't want to go. He just prefers Google Maps or Waze with Android Auto. I mostly just use the Kona nav, and it does the job for me. But Waze is good for freeway and hwy driving to tell you where the cops are.
 
The main advantage of the Tesla NAV is that it actually understands you're driving an EV and not ICE. It will tell you where you need to charge and for how long to get from point A to point B. Will also precondition your battery for optimal charging speeds before you reach the charger. Good luck getting that functionality from a Waze.

Next best thing for other EVs is ABRP but hardly as seamless of an integration. I know these things may seem trivial for EV enthusiasts on a forum like this one but it's a huge advantage for regular consumers. It removes a lot of the range anxiety and fear of driving an EV.
 
I ran into an odd one with the Kona navi today.

We used the voice thing to find a POI - so far so good. It offered a few options, which were reasonable. We selected one and a message came up more or less right away:

Calculating route. Please try again later.

That's it. It wouldn't navigate. The map itself seemed fine. A couple of hours later, I tried again, and it was fine. So that made me think that the local cell towers were borked (all sorts of weird things since the hurricane rolled through yesterday), but the navi has some failure mode where instead of falling back to static routing it would just bail.
 
John Cadogan reviews Kona Electric in Australia ,and the usually opinionated John will surprise...

COVID19 summer, first time using my emergency kit cables jump starting another vehicle involves my Kona Electric.Told ICE truck to not coal roll EVs;)

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I tried to buy a Kona EV (May 2019) before settling for the Model 3. Even calling Canadian dealers.

Wish I had waited as the Model 3 has been a disappointment, mostly the poor implementation on adaptive cruise, lane keeping, blind spot alert, proximity sensing, rear cross traffic alert (none at all), no rear auto braking, no 360 surround view.
 
I seriously consider trading my Kona in for M3. I had it stalled on the highway, AC broke and now the dealership cannot fix clicking sound issue (after several trips to dealership) and starting to charge me for parts :(
 
JellyCat said:
I seriously consider trading my Kona in for M3. I had it stalled on the highway, AC broke and now the dealership cannot fix clicking sound issue (after several trips to dealership) and starting to charge me for parts :(
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You need to find another dealer.
 
JellyCat said:
I seriously consider trading my Kona in for M3. I had it stalled on the highway, AC broke and now the dealership cannot fix clicking sound issue (after several trips to dealership) and starting to charge me for parts :(
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That's a joke, they can't find the problem of a manufacturing issue, so they charge you. I'd get in contact with corporate. And change the dealer.
 
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