Canada allows Chinese EVs into market
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If the battery bus and fast DC charger are in the same voltage range, a handshake translator (i.e., adapter) should work. But if a battery is at 800 VDC and the charger 400 VDC, no.
Bob Wilson
Will Donald Trump force Canada to scuttle the Chinese EV deal before he'll allow the opening of the recently completed Gordie Howe International Bridge (check it out, it's beautiful)? Or will Canada just have to change the bridge's name?
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He is more likely to scuttle USMCA, and then we won't need that new bridge.
Quote from the article with regard to adapters:
"Charging networks are forced to use chargers with multiple cables, at added cost. What’s more, poor quality chargers and adapters have created fire risks."
yeah the forum is definitely going to need a whole new section just for byd and the other chinese brandsit is wild how fast they walked back those massive tariffs after making such a big deal about themi am really curious to see how those batteries actually hold up once they hit a real canadian winter"Canada, which imposed 100 per cent tariffs on Chinese electric vehicles in 2024, will allow up to 49,000 Chinese EVs into the Canadian market each year, at a 6.1 per cent tariff."
I guess we are going to need some more categories
The China border with North Korea gets pretty chilly in the winter too. A toddler at the time, I wasn't there. but:
Bob Wilson
We'll get more forums created as demand exists. We already have too many forums, if I'm being honest. I've thought many times how to clean up the clutter and didn't get very far.
We're quickly going to get into the 'first wave' of old EVs no longer being of interest. 10 year old evs will have diminishing demand (old tech, spent battery, etc) sent to the scrap yard and very little interest in the platform after that point. Too costly to maintain/replace cells/etc, off to the scrap yard they go.
New models come out every day. Brands are coming out monthly it seems.
The thought I had was to create a catch-all generic 'Chinese EVs' category where they can all be discussed, but this sounds a bit not PC. Why not a German EV category? or why does Vinfast get their own and aren't in a Vietnamese category.
Still need to iterate on this and do the right thing.
Ultimately, user-demand (people coming here with the car) will dictate what categories we create.
That said, if we don't have a category for something, they probably won't come here at all anyway. Chicken/Egg.
So, ideally, one of you regulars needs to be the first to tell me that you want this forum for this car because you just bought it
We're quickly going to get into the 'first wave' of old EVs no longer being of interest. 10 year old evs will have diminishing demand (old tech, spent battery, etc) sent to the scrap yard and very little interest in the platform after that point. Too costly to maintain/replace cells/etc, off to the scrap yard they go.
New models come out every day. Brands are coming out monthly it seems.
The thought I had was to create a catch-all generic 'Chinese EVs' category where they can all be discussed, but this sounds a bit not PC. Why not a German EV category? or why does Vinfast get their own and aren't in a Vietnamese category.
Still need to iterate on this and do the right thing.
Ultimately, user-demand (people coming here with the car) will dictate what categories we create.
That said, if we don't have a category for something, they probably won't come here at all anyway. Chicken/Egg.
So, ideally, one of you regulars needs to be the first to tell me that you want this forum for this car because you just bought it
This looks promising:
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Stellantis in talks to build Chinese EVs at Canadian plant, Bloomberg News reports
Stellantis in talks to build Chinese EVs at Canadian plant, Bloomberg News reports
April 1 : Stellantis is discussing options for building electric vehicles in Canada with Chinese partner Zhejiang Leapmotor Technology, Bloomberg News reported on Wednesday, citing people familiar with the matter.In 2023, Stellantis bought a 21 per cent stake in Leapmotor for $1.6 billion. The...
Geely starts hiring in Toronto, won't be long now...
"Although the postings are listed under Zeekr International, each role is explicitly tied to the “Geely Auto Brand,” suggesting the Canadian launch will focus on Geely’s EV lineup rather than Zeekr, its premium, high-end subsidiary.
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"Although the postings are listed under Zeekr International, each role is explicitly tied to the “Geely Auto Brand,” suggesting the Canadian launch will focus on Geely’s EV lineup rather than Zeekr, its premium, high-end subsidiary.
Geely preparing Canadian launch with major hiring push in Toronto
Geely’s Canadian launch appears imminent as Zeekr International posts six senior roles in Toronto, signaling an imminent launch in Canada.
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18 Lotus Eletre on the way shipped from Wuhan, China on May 6 under the Geely Brand.
Quite a contrast when comparing the Tesla M3 from Giga Shanghai priced at $39,490, the Eletre base price starts at $119,900.
Checking the configurator page, I also notice the freight expense is $4,650 C. while the Tesla M3 freight and PDI is $2500
Quite a contrast when comparing the Tesla M3 from Giga Shanghai priced at $39,490, the Eletre base price starts at $119,900.
Checking the configurator page, I also notice the freight expense is $4,650 C. while the Tesla M3 freight and PDI is $2500
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I thought Chinese cars imported to Canada had to cost less than $35K, but it's clear I don't understand the Canadian stipulations.18 Lotus Eletre on the way shipped from Wuhan, China on May 6 under the Geely Brand.
Quite a contrast when comparing the Tesla M3 from Giga Shanghai priced at $39,490, the Eletre base price starts at $119,900.
Checking the configurator page, I also notice the freight expense is $4,650 C. while the Tesla M3 freight and PDI is $2500
A real good question, so check this link out. It is Canada's EV import rules (referring to China) as set out by the Federal Gov.
"With the amendments, the current surtaxes on imports of EVs from China would be replaced with an import quota. Vehicles imported under permit would only be subject to an MFN tariff of 6.1%. Available permits would cover 49 000 vehicles in year one and would increase at a rate of 6.5% per year. Starting in year two, 10% of the quota will be reserved for vehicles with a value of $35,000 or less, with this reserve increasing to 50% over five years."
So the way I read it...the $35K quota starts in year 2 (10% must qualify), so it's the "wild west" in year 1- no limit.
I had expected this would translate to a lot of really high end EVs during the first year, no cheap EVs (with the exception of Tesla's M3, but even that is above the $35k Quota which won't start till year 2).
I am sure Geely will have cheap EVs for sale starting year 2, to offset the high end ones coming in year 1 (NOW).
Canadians are fortunate to live in a democracy unlike those of us south of the border who reside in a kleptocracy where the oligarchs reign supreme. Tariffs should protect existing industries but an exception should be made when the domestic companies are unwilling to provide new products that improve the well being of consumers.
In the 1980's it was the Japanese that provided alternatives to the gas guzzlers from American auto companies. It will be the Chinese who do the same with their exceptional EVs. The Chinese EVs sell for far less than ICE vehicles in an open market.
Geely knows how to get their Chinese vehicles (Volvo, Polestar, Lotus) into the US. GM is selling the Chinese-built Buick Envision, and Ford is selling the Chinese-built Lincoln Nautilus. Others will follow.
That's pretty much exactly how the rollout played out here in Australia. Zeekr launched with the X first, then added the 7X and the 009 — all positioned at the premium end, nothing near the budget segment yet. The Zeekr 009 is the flagship here: a full-size luxury electric MPV with a 6-seat "first class" layout option, around 686 km of claimed range, and it's clearly aimed at buyers cross-shopping luxury SUVs rather than price-conscious EV shoppers. So if Canada's first year is unrestricted, I'd expect the same playbook — premium models to establish the brand, cheaper Geely-branded EVs once the quota rules kick in year two.
I think Canadian current PM did his homework, likely in part following Australia's success
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That Chinese vehicle deal is one of the many grievances Trump has with Canada that have prompted him to threaten the opening of the beautiful new Detroit-Windsor Gordie Howe International Bridge, which has been complete since February. Hopefully, he won't be sending troops to prevent the bridge from being opened this week.I think Canadian current PM did his homework, likely in part following Australia's success
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