Tires (Summer/Winter/All-Season)

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polyphonic said:
Oh, they look totally crazy! I was surprised to find that noise/comfort are actually very good. You really hear the rubber when accelerating hard, but otherwise it's muted. I wonder if the contact patch spreads out under load. There is an Engineering Explained video on it.

Definitely a step down in terms of fun and handling, but it should be secure in all sorts of weather. I will update on efficiency and slick conditions once we get more time with them.
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That video is why I'm considering them for my wife's Subaru!

What's the negative about fun/handling? Do they feel kinda squirmy like winter tires or just lots of sidewall flex?
 
Carsten Haase said:
That video is why I'm considering them for my wife's Subaru!

What's the negative about fun/handling? Do they feel kinda squirmy like winter tires or just lots of sidewall flex?
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Compared to the Ventus Evo summer tires the CC2s don't put power down very well. If you floor it you really hear the rubber working. It doesn't hook the way that the summers do so well. It will still accelerate just fine in any normal driving situation, but the tires will force you to be more sedate.

Only got a chance to test them in 50-70 degree weather so far. Handling is fine, a little squirmy. Braking is good.

By most accounts, it's kind of a no-brainer tire for a Subaru :)
 
Update:

Thanks for the help a couple of weeks ago in this thread. It was super helpful in seeing my options. I decided the steel wheels were too much unsprung weight. The package that MINI offered with the weird sized tires was also a no-go.

I am pretty sure this is what I would like to get - https://www.alloywheelsdirect.net/m...r_alloys/16_mini_495_victory_spoke_wheel_4635

Anyone have any stories of using this company to buy wheels? Was it successful?

Thanks!
Eric
 
But those wheels are black... I guess you could paint them but that is a lot of money for those wheels.

TireRack has 16" wheels for a lot less or you could just buy used ones.
 
JonR said:
But those wheels are black... I guess you could paint them but that is a lot of money for those wheels.

TireRack has 16" wheels for a lot less or you could just buy used ones.
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I would like black wheels. I think it will go well with the black trim on the car.

I didn't love my options on Tire Rack, despite the lower cost.
 
Rhody_SE said:
For anyone interested in seeing what the SE looks like with Enkei J10 wheels:

2022 Signature trim, 16" Enkei J10 wheels and 195/55R-16 Continental VikingContact 7 winter tires

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Rhody_SE,
They look great as a complement to the chrome trim. How is the fitment (16x7, 38mm offset) compared to the OEM (54mm offset)? A Tirerack package? If so, it's a reasonably priced set and the wheels are light (16.7 lbs.).
 
Anyone had experience with Sumitomo’s HTR A/S P03? I would prefer to not have to buy a second set of wheels and tires for winter (live in central Ohio, so we get our fair share of snow, typically 1-3” for a couple days at a time, and my flat side street gets ploughed within 1-2 days)


I know winter tires are better for the winter and summers are better for the summer - no duh - but I am looking for a performance compromise that won’t kill range or kartiness.


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DisgruntledSanta said:
Anyone had experience with Sumitomo’s HTR A/S P03? I would prefer to not have to buy a second set of wheels and tires for winter (live in central Ohio, so we get our fair share of snow, typically 1-3” for a couple days at a time, and my flat side street gets ploughed within 1-2 days)


I know winter tires are better for the winter and summers are better for the summer - no duh - but I am looking for a performance compromise that won’t kill range or kartiness.


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I’ve no experience with the Sumitomo tires but I remain very interested in the Michelin CrossClimate2 all-season tires. My weather is similar to yours apart from an occasional Nor’easter that will dump a foot or more of snow. I’m looking for all around performance with low rolling resistance. The reviews of the CrossClimate2 have been quite good. I hope to see my SE by mid-January. It appears to be waiting for a ship. Polyphonic may be able to add a few comments on the CC2 tires.
 
goaheadbackup said:
I’ve no experience with the Sumitomo tires but I remain very interested in the Michelin CrossClimate2 all-season tires. My weather is similar to yours apart from an occasional Nor’easter that will dump a foot or more of snow. I’m looking for all around performance with low rolling resistance. The reviews of the CrossClimate2 have been quite good. I hope to see my SE by mid-January. It appears to be waiting for a ship. Polyphonic may be able to add a few comments on the CC2 tires.
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I have no experience with the Crossclimate 2 but here's the EU tire (tyre) label.

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For reference, the stock summers have a rolling resistance rating of an "A". My ultra high performance A/S tires got a "D" and have resulted in an average real world range of 104mi*, down from 136mi with the stock summers.

*An unknown part of that decrease is due to the larger width (from 195/55R16 to 215/45R17) but a significant chunk is rolling resistance
 
DisgruntledSanta said:
live in central Ohio, so we get our fair share of snow, typically 1-3” for a couple days at a time, and my flat side street gets ploughed within 1-2 days
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Any all-season is going to be adequate for those kinds of conditions. Snow tires really shine when the ground freezes hard and there's a layer of ice and packed snow-crete on the road surface all season long.

I think the thing to look for for tires on the SE (any EV, actually) is low rolling resistance.
 
DisgruntledSanta said:
Any tips on where to find the rolling resistance values?
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It's been very hard to find that info. Sometimes you can find it in tire stats on sites like Tire Rack or Discount Tire. Or manufacturer's sites, specifically if they make tires for EVs. Otherwise I guess look for what tires EVs have stock or look for reviews.
 
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