Recall 196 now shows on US Hyundai Recall website..

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R P said:
I think in general Hyundai as well as most car manufacturers like to say as little as possible about their problems so as not to beg more questions. They also don't want to give their competition any ammunition they might use against them, as well as not divulge any proprietary technology.
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That I kind of get. And for relatively minor items, they can kind of get away with it. But battery fires really get peoples attention, and it gets hard to sweep it under the rug.

Hyundai/Kia also have an issue with engine fires in ICE cars that involves about 423000 cars. I don't know much about the specifics, or what it is costing Hyundai to remedy that one. It can't be more than replacing a battery pack in an EV.
 
R P said:
I think in general Hyundai as well as most car manufacturers like to say as little as possible about their problems so as not to beg more questions. They also don't want to give their competition any ammunition they might use against them, as well as not divulge any proprietary technology.
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Turning into a fireball in the garage isn't the idiot proof indication I would personally want of something being an issue:D

Bumped into an Etron last week at a DCFC.Their CCS isn't maintaining a charge,it terminates active charging.Memories of my etron,nothing would repair its electrical issues after 2 wiring harness replacements,calibration...

Let's hope the Kona electric doesn't go in this direction:
Charger issues plague my Hyundai Ioniq EV as company struggles to find fix
 
Hi:
We bought a 2022 Kona on the (mistaken) belief that the battery was improved and not subject to the same problems as previus years. Today I learned it is th same old LG Chem battery that is subject to recalls. It has not been recalled yet but could be in a matter of time. Hyundai has not been transparent at all. Any news, suggestions or experiences? Thanks!
 
I bought 2021 Kona, when I charge it to 100% at home it won't go into "Drive" after that. Connecting an OBDII scanner and "clearing the error codes" fixes the problem. There is a permanent error code and the scanner says it failed to erase it but it does something because the car is drivable again. I took it to the dealer and they told me the battery have to be changed. They do not have one and my car is held hostage. I have to drive ICE loaner car until they fix mine. There are no recalls for my VIN.
 
The "permanent" code was that nagging P0C17 about the position resolver, right? That apparently
never goes away and yet it basically means nothing.

_H*
 
thor said:
Hi:
We bought a 2022 Kona on the (mistaken) belief that the battery was improved and not subject to the same problems as previus years. Today I learned it is th same old LG Chem battery that is subject to recalls. It has not been recalled yet but could be in a matter of time. Hyundai has not been transparent at all. Any news, suggestions or experiences? Thanks!
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Well, it's LG Chem, but that doesn't mean it's the same battery.

The recall, so far at least, only goes to cars manufactured through early 2020 (I don't remember if they've said a specific date). And even then, not all of them in that range. So Hyundai and/or LG Chem changed something at that point, such that they haven't felt the need to recall any cars manufactured later than that yet (and I don't believe they've extend the date at all since they first announced 196).

Of course, that doesn't necessarily mean your car won't be recalled at some point in the future. There's no way to guarantee that. But if it isn't subject to the recall now (and you can double check that on the Hyundai website with your VIN), there's no reason to believe that it's at risk.
 
TRSmith said:
Well, it's LG Chem, but that doesn't mean it's the same battery.

The recall, so far at least, only goes to cars manufactured through early 2020 (I don't remember if they've said a specific date). And even then, not all of them in that range. So Hyundai and/or LG Chem changed something at that point, such that they haven't felt the need to recall any cars manufactured later than that yet (and I don't believe they've extend the date at all since they first announced 196).
Of course, that doesn't necessarily mean your car won't be recalled at some point in the future. There's no way to guarantee that. But if it isn't subject to the recall now (and you can double check that on the Hyundai website with your VIN), there's no reason to believe that it's at risk.
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Hi: You are correct it isn't subject to recall , yet, but note that GM is recalling all batteries including in 2022 Bolts also LG Chem. So clearly LG dd not correct these batteries. If so Hyundai is not unique or special and should recall and replace ALL LG chem batteries made up to an including this August 2022 when the announcement of the defect was made by GM and LG. I am troubled because before we bought the 2022 Kona we asked the dealer if these were newer batteries that did not have the same problems as the ones subject to recall. They represented tht they were of a different manufacturer. Lack of Transparency is an issue.
 
ColoradoKonaEV said:
I bought 2021 Kona, when I charge it to 100% at home it won't go into "Drive" after that. Connecting an OBDII scanner and "clearing the error codes" fixes the problem. There is a permanent error code and the scanner says it failed to erase it but it does something because the car is drivable again. I took it to the dealer and they told me the battery have to be changed. They do not have one and my car is held hostage. I have to drive ICE loaner car until they fix mine. There are no recalls for my VIN.
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Same here…. I have opened a case with Hyundai and plan to file a lemon law case if necessary. I don’t know if my VIN was recalled, but my car bricked under the same circumstances you described and it is awaiting a battery while I drive a loaner. I actually traded my 2019 for a 2021 assuming the new one wouldn’t have an issue… silly me.
 
thor said:
Hi: You are correct it isn't subject to recall , yet, but note that GM is recalling all batteries including in 2022 Bolts also LG Chem. So clearly LG dd not correct these batteries. If so Hyundai is not unique or special and should recall and replace ALL LG chem batteries made up to an including this August 2022 when the announcement of the defect was made by GM and LG. I am troubled because before we bought the 2022 Kona we asked the dealer if these were newer batteries that did not have the same problems as the ones subject to recall. They represented tht they were of a different manufacturer. Lack of Transparency is an issue.
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Unless Hyundai says otherwise,their lack of information to Kona electric owners leads ones like me to look at GM's approach to their LG problem. The LG Li-ion is a physical issue, no amount of software will fix the potential inferno. GM has placed a stop sale on ALL Bolts,including the EUV. Which I recently saw,and it looks much better.GM appeared to listen to owner feedback by adding a moon roof,ACC,12V in cargo...
 
thor said:
Hi: You are correct it isn't subject to recall , yet, but note that GM is recalling all batteries including in 2022 Bolts also LG Chem. So clearly LG dd not correct these batteries. If so Hyundai is not unique or special and should recall and replace ALL LG chem batteries made up to an including this August 2022 when the announcement of the defect was made by GM and LG. I am troubled because before we bought the 2022 Kona we asked the dealer if these were newer batteries that did not have the same problems as the ones subject to recall. They represented tht they were of a different manufacturer. Lack of Transparency is an issue.
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Never trust a car dealer about anything, ever.
 
Christian Reading said:
Here it is.View attachment 13371
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Doesn't mean anything to me other than the date April 1st 2021.... my battery in my 22 was manufactured in may of 2021.. Is there another sticker below this one? There is still concern as my understanding is that LG was having problems and they were not identified until this Summer. The question is when dd LG stop hving problems exactly? I would watch the recall page to see if your battery serial no or VIN is affected. Hopefully not!
 
There are no other stickers on the underside of the battery. From the article I posted, HL Green packs are built by Hyundai with LG Chem packs. Beginning March 2021 in Ulsan Hyundai is producing batteries. That is significant because they would not be LG Chem.
 
As I stated. I have a 2022 Kona. The battery sticker states May 2021. But there is a second sticker below indicting it was likely made by LG Chem "H-L Green..." (HL = Hyundai/LG) So I take no comfort in this article.
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