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bwilson4web said:
A Full Self Driving owner operator, I could not get past the title, “Former Waymo CEO on Tesla’s robotaxi launch: ‘there are many ways to fake a robotaxi service’”

It is easy to make a claim not backed up by hands on experience or evidence. If FSD is faked, it sure fools me with every mile I drive. But don’t let my hands on observations keep anyone from Fear, Uncertainty, and Doubt.

I am shopping for my second Tesla with Full Self Driving. If you scare off other buyers, I can get a better deal. (Wait a minute . . .)

Oh yea! Full Self Driving and Tesla cars, especially Model Y, are ‘death machines!’ YOU WILL DIE IN A HORRIBLE TESLA BATTERY FIRE! Do not buy!!

Bob Wilson
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ARK Invest CEO Cathie Wood maintains her ambitious $2,600 price target for Tesla (NASDAQ:TSLA) by 2029—valuing the company at over $9 trillion—despite the stock’s near 41% decline since the beginning of the year.

“It’s winner take most,” Wood said of Tesla’s position in the autonomous vehicle race during Bloomberg’s "Odd Lots" podcast. “And we do believe that Tesla will be and is in the pole position here in the United States.”

Wood sees robotaxis as an $8 trillion to $10 trillion opportunity that could transform Tesla from an auto manufacturer to a software company. She predicts autonomous vehicles will boost Tesla’s gross margins from the current 16% to up to 90%, according to Fortune.
 
If he is going to double production in 2 years, where is he going to put all that unsold inventory??
 
No Ice said:
ARK Invest CEO Cathie Wood
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Worried about being single stock invested, I bought three different ARK fund stocks thinking, "Any fund bright enough to buy TSLA may have insights to buy other, innovative stocks." Within a year I took my losses and never looked back.

Bob Wilson
 
bwilson4web said:
A Full Self Driving owner operator, I could not get past the title, “Former Waymo CEO on Tesla’s robotaxi launch: ‘there are many ways to fake a robotaxi service’”

It is easy to make a claim not backed up by hands on experience or evidence. If FSD is faked, it sure fools me with every mile I drive. But don’t let my hands on observations keep anyone from Fear, Uncertainty, and Doubt.

I am shopping for my second Tesla with Full Self Driving. If you scare off other buyers, I can get a better deal. (Wait a minute . . .)

Oh yea! Full Self Driving and Tesla cars, especially Model Y, are ‘death machines!’ YOU WILL DIE IN A HORRIBLE TESLA BATTERY FIRE! Do not buy!!

Bob Wilson
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FSD is what it is , but it is not FSD. And it certainly is not driverless. That last few percent is the hard part. The point being made about 'faking' robotaxis is that they will be run by humans online it would seem.
 
bwilson4web said:
A Full Self Driving owner operator, I could not get past the title, “Former Waymo CEO on Tesla’s robotaxi launch: ‘there are many ways to fake a robotaxi service’”

It is easy to make a claim not backed up by hands on experience or evidence. If FSD is faked, it sure fools me with every mile I drive. But don’t let my hands on observations keep anyone from Fear, Uncertainty, and Doubt.
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Do you consider FSD already good enough to drive Elon's robo-taxi with no remote monitoring by a human (the fake part)?
 
It's very hard for any of us to know how real any of Tesla's robotaxi or AI promises are, though past performance invites some skepticism. For now it's still a car company, and it looks like sales are taking a pretty significant hit -- but again, available data is far from complete. We're about 2 weeks away from the Q1 sales reports from all the companies, which should be interesting indeed.
 
About FSD, pretty much all of my driving is FSD although there are areas that need improvement:
  • Street-to-parking lot - the cacophony of parking lot layouts often lead to suboptimal routes. Problems range from missing and bizarre lane lines, non-standard signage, and greenery islands. This is where I most frequently take manual control. As for self parking, I sometimes adjust for space for other car doors, especially driver doors.
  • Route entry - I prefer shortest distance and most efficient routes. The Tesla model is fastest time which often adds distance and higher, less efficient speeds.
  • Does not learn favorite routes - destinations, yes, but not how I want to get there.
  • Learning how to use navigation for FSD - it is tricky but I am becoming more adept at tricking the car to go where I want.
  • Speed control - has some heuristics called chill, standard, and hurry versus the intransigence of simpler cruise control. I typically drive on chill which is also efficient. But I have used hurry and arrived with lower remaining range, 12 mi.
  • Tesla chargers default map - I often use PlugShare to find closer L2 and fast DC chargers that I have an adapter. For example. I parked with 12 miles range but after Church, had 9 miles. I could have used a 110 VAC outlet to slow charge to reach a SuperCharger. But PlugShare gave me the address of a TVA CCS-1 station 4.5 miles away and I tricked the navigation to reach it using slower City streets.
I have no interest in my car becoming a Robotaxi. I bought it to be MY car and drive my routes and style to where I want it to go. It could be better but “never let perfect become the enemy of good enough.”

For those who have no seat time with FSD, there is a steep and scary learning curve. But in Tesla forums, we ‘trade tricks.’

Is FSD perfect, no, but it is good enough for me.

Bob Wilson
 
bwilson4web said:
Actually there is a cult of Tesla skeptics that go out of their way to trash Teslas:
There are also some in the "Tesla can do no wrong" cult. Please remember, I'm short-selling 10 shares TSLA group and 2019 Model 3 owner.

Bob Wilson
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I dunno if the youtuber is die hard anti Tesla, but it does reinforce the point that camera only has significant limitations.
 
I do have to note that a year ago Tesla was 150 and it was not the end of the company.
The fascist bump is over and they can still borrow money, and will be able to until they hit the single digits
 
Since this is a stock thread --

If you are thinking tesla will go down, there's inverse etf's that you can add to your portfolio.
TSLZ
TSLQ
CRSH
amongst others.
 
brianc35 said:
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  • TSLZ - $5.36 "Buy orders are not currently accepted for this security Securities may be unavailable for purchase at Vanguard due to a number of variables including regulatory restrictions, OTC status, leveraged or inverse strategy, cryptocurrency-related, corporate actions, or various trading and/or settlement limitations."
  • TSLQ - $59.35 "Buy orders are not currently accepted for this security"
  • CRSH - $8.25 "Buy orders are not currently accepted for this security"
OWCH!

This potentially solves a problem. Due to a built-in Vanguard 7 day delay, my original bank transfer was held up. Just under $500 was not applied. Worse, during the delay, the TSLA stock went down from a little over $300 to $270 when I was finally able to 'short' it. <GERRR>

I looked for a fund with a heavy footprint of TSLA stock and the numbers are too small, < 3%. I'm OK with shorting a fund highly committed to TSLA.

Bob Wilson
 
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Vanguard and schwab are pretty strict about non-traditional approach ETFs. Fidelity, hood, and others let you trade it once you sign a waiver on the account.
 
Why I am not surprised:

The president's commerce secretary, Howard Lutnick, appeared on Fox News and reflected on shares in Tesla, Musk's car company, falling sharply in recent weeks. At that point, the Cabinet secretary encouraged viewers to start investing: “It's unbelievable that this guy's stock is this cheap,” Lutnick said. - multiple sources​

I noticed some curious vacillations in the Thursday price:
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Never draw conclusions from a single day but "Isn't that curious?"

Bob Wilson
 
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