Slowly getting to achieve goal of purchasing EV

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Earl said:
Unless you have bad luck and run around with a gap scale, measuring all of the panel joints, you'll most likely, never have a problem with a Tesla. I haven't seen any noticeable issues with Teslas. I just had my first service (other than one where the culprit was my antiquated iPhone) on my 2018 Model 3 after 104,000 miles. They preemptively replaced my 12-volt accessory battery and the mobile charging connector - at no cost to me. This took about 20 minutes and was done by a knowledgeable mobile technician. He arrived at my house in a Model S that had been outfitted with tool boxes as a mobile service vehicle.
Tesla drivers, for the most part, are well supported and having a great time on the road.
I've driven all over the USA and, with almost no exceptions, only see Teslas on the road. Why is this?
Even in the most remote locations, there are Teslas using Supercharger stations. EA stations are always empty. Why?
Don't take my word though. I might just be a Tesla Fanboi of which you've witnessed that I've been accused. Swing by the 3 DC Fast charge sessions in Sudbury and see for yourself.
https://www.plugshare.com/location/248420
https://www.plugshare.com/location/206413
https://www.plugshare.com/location/138703
Check out others around you (find them on plugshare.com).
You might even ask the people you see at them what they think. Watch how long they spend there. They are, most likely people who don't waste time on forums trying to force their opinions on others or attacking them online.
I'm sure you'd benefit by a non-Tesla EV, however, I don't recommend that you rule-out a Tesla just based on the hatred that you see around here. Most Tesla owners don't participate on non-Tesla forums. They're just driving around like with any other car.
I do know one person who ordered a Model Y and found the car they brought him to have fit and paint problems. He rejected that car and they got him a different one. A quick inspection upon delivery is all it takes to see if you have a "friday afternoon build". I also understand that Tesla has learned to do a better job at catching cosmetic quality issues themselves.
The biggest difference between a Tesla and other EVs is that Teslas are on parity with ICE as far as lifetime cost, convenience, and utility. With other EVs, you'll need an ICE for convenient long trips, especially winter ones. Unlike with ICE, where all function pretty much the same, with Teslas, despite the fight from the established car manufacturers, there is night and day difference between the efficiency, range, convenience, performance, safety, and charging infrastructure.
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Performance wise the Model 3 seems ideal and I do like the frameless windows. Not sure whether stereo is decent in the SR+. Did not know you could refuse delivery if too many issues...

Dan
 
miatadan said:
Did not know you could refuse delivery if too many issues...
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Yes, at least in the USA, you can. You should probably check the fine print when you put in your order though.

I can't help with the stereo in the SR+: The stereo in my original LR RWD is ok. My only real complaint is that it doesn't support AM radio. I don't really care too much about the audio quality in a car due to the poor acoustics and road-noise or I'd complain that it doesn't support CD either. I want AM radio to get local news/weather broadcast in remote areas and for road advisories.
 
The stereo is good enough that I have to turn it down when some mechanical parts of my music sound bad.

Bob Wilson
 
My experience with Electrify Canada so far has been bad with respect to maintenance -- too often machines are out of order for one reason or another.
 
Calliope said:
My experience with Electrify Canada so far has been bad with respect to maintenance -- too often machines are out of order for one reason or another.
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Which is why a "national standard" of uptime on government funded chargers is required. It is a problem being addressed probably requiring the reporting and monitoring of uptime minimums for companies receiving public funding. Great idea, but it will obviously take the usual bureaucratic time consuming procedures.;)
https://electricautonomy.ca/2021/01/14/ev-charger-anxiety-uptime-metrics/
 
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Electrify Canada is not even an option here in Sudbury at all.

The more options on the market for EV's, hopefully more people will consider them in the future. But we need more charging stations to be available.

Dan
 
miatadan said:
Electrify Canada is not even an option here in Sudbury at all.

The more options on the market for EV's, hopefully more people will consider them in the future. But we need more charging stations to be available.

Dan
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Excluding Supercharger, I see these 3 DC chargers in Sudbury:

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and
https://photos.plugshare.com/photos/488390.jpg
also
https://photos.plugshare.com/photos/488726_1570561332.jpg
The last 25 kW machine is free.
Electrify Canada chargers seem to sprout up magically within close proximity of Petro Canada charger locations and offer equivalent if not faster speeds, hopefully some competition is around the corner.;)
 
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Thanks for the photos, second picture is near my old work location but have not been that part of town for a while
 
miatadan said:
Electrify Canada is not even an option here in Sudbury at all.

The more options on the market for EV's, hopefully more people will consider them in the future. But we need more charging stations to be available.

Dan
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Not sure how fast they are in your area but it seems that on the way towards Ottawa and North the chargers are only 50kw chargers. That's not too fast for charging speeds. Hopefully as new ones come in they are at least 150kw units.
 
Ivy chargers are sprouting up all over the less-urban, small-city areas (in Ontario, at least) -- I used to use several of them to charge my way up to my cottage near North Bay. But they're limited to 50 kW, and they rarely offer even that. Faster than L2, of course, but at $20/hour, they're not cheap.

Ah - I see they're owned by Ontario Power Generation and Hydro One. That explains so much :P
 
Calliope said:
Ivy chargers are sprouting up all over the less-urban, small-city areas (in Ontario, at least) -- I used to use several of them to charge my way up to my cottage near North Bay. But they're limited to 50 kW, and they rarely offer even that. Faster than L2, of course, but at $20/hour, they're not cheap.

Ah - I see they're owned by Ontario Power Generation and Hydro One. That explains so much :p
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With $20 hour, best to just skip using those
 
The hwy 144 from Sudbury to Timmin's , one of the worst ( 2 lanes with no passing lanes as well as little shoulder )
 
We've finally decided on getting a Tesla M3 Long Range. A major factor in our decision was the Superchargers in Sudbury, North Bay, Parry Sound and Huntsville. Especially as they're the only high speed chargers on Hwy 11 (Yonge St) north of Barrie.

Someday we might tempt fate and follow 11 all the way to Thunder Bay in the summer. There are a few 50kW chargers along the way.
 
The Superchargers is a big draw to Tesla and they are less expensive to use than some of the other charging networks.
 
ID4 is pretty similar in price, but I haven't tried it out, so not sure how it compares. If you're shopping in that price range though, I think the Niro EV and ID4 are both decent choices.
 
Mazda finally announced pricing for Canadian market ( MX30 ) but only available in 2 province's Quebec & British Columbia (((.... Also the VW ID4 limited to only few dealers in Ontario.

So few choices of affordable EV's as new Audi Q4 e-tron is too expensive, same for Mach-E and none of these are 2 door but Suv/Crossover designs.

May just end up ordering 2022 Mustang GT in grabber blue since no affordable 2 door EV's.... see what happens when Dec 2021 comes along.
Hopefully more choices of Bev and Phev by then.

Dan
 
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