Recall 196 now shows on US Hyundai Recall website..

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electriceddy said:
Good to hear, thanks for that. I like the "insulating property inferiority" has no bearing on the damage to the battery cell separator, (as acknowledged by Hyundai), additionally it is more cost effective from the maintenance point of view.
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I'm glad that I have the green coolant... That means that I should be able to change it myself at 120k miles..
 
BlueKonaEV said:
I'm glad that I have the green coolant... That means that I should be able to change it myself at 120k miles..
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Its a pretty extensive cooling/heating loop and your still going to need access to a bidirectional scan tool that can turn the 2 water pumps on so you can circulate the 3 gallons of new green coolant. As far as I know the dealer GDS tool is the only one that supports this function, possibly the $1000+ bidirectional Autel, I have yet to email them to confirm.
 
apu said:
Its a pretty extensive cooling/heating loop and your still going to need access to a bidirectional scan tool that can turn the 2 water pumps on so you can circulate the 3 gallons of new green coolant. As far as I know the dealer GDS tool is the only one that supports this function, possibly the $1000+ bidirectional Autel, I have yet to email them to confirm.
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now that sucks... but considering that there is no other real maintenance... I'm ok with that..
 
Given the mild temperatures the coolant is exposed to, it's remarkable that it needs changing at all.
 
BlueKonaEV said:
now that sucks... but considering that there is no other real maintenance... I'm ok with that..
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I would not too much worry into it, given how tech evolves so quickly as there is a good chance a third party tool will be available at a reasonable price by the time we need to do the service.
 
electriceddy said:
Try this:
https://en.wikibooks.org/wiki/Vehicle_Identification_Numbers_(VIN_codes)/Hyundai/VIN_Codes
Some are off because of the dated listing, but you can tell what year and manufacturing facility (geographic location)
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According to https://www.greencarreports.com/new...us-recall-for-2019-2020-hyundai-kona-electric the recall does not include 2021 models of Kona E. Also that apparently the fires (all?) involved "fully charged" cars. To me this is new.

I double checked today on the Canadian recall website - https://recalls.hyundaicanada.com/. A search by VIN correctly ID-d the car's make, model and the year 2021 and listed no recalls against my car.

I wonder if they did not recall the 2021 models Hyundai must have changed something in the manufacturing process between August 28, 2018 and March 2, 2020, and again after March 2 of that year. If so, how come Hyundai has no idea what is wrong with the cars made pre March 2, 2020?

Questions, questions ....
 
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Barry T said:
Drivers side, B pillar.
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Thanks. It turns out that my car was manufactured on June 17/2020. After March 2,2020 so it would be outside the manufacturing window when the recalled cars were made. I hope I am right!
 
My Kona was made on Mar 7 2020, 5 days after Mar 2nd. I checked my VIN on Hyundai Canada and no recall so far. My car does not have Aux Battery Saver in control menu that indicates BMS has been upgraded. Hope I am lucky. I suspect Hyundai has known there were problems in battery and BMS so they upgraded BMS and fixed the battery problem on all EV after Mar 2nd but they did not issue recall for EV before Mar 2nd 2020 until more fires reported.


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If that's the case then there must have been a production change before as well because my car is outside of the (announced) recall window but was built BEFORE the recall period. Funny thing is that I was still required to get the BMS update. So you tell me....
 
I didn't realize this before: Hyundai says it won't start formally notifying owners and dealers until Dec. 11: https://static.nhtsa.gov/odi/rcl/2020/RCLRPT-20V630-7305.PDF

(That filing also seems to say the recall action consists of a BMS update and inspection.)

I wonder if that means Hyundai is hoping to find out more in the next two months and adjust the recall action accordingly.

I'll be really annoyed if Hyundai figures out that the first action it took wasn't sufficient, and everyone has to take multiple trips to the dealership.
 
TRSmith said:
I didn't realize this before: Hyundai says it won't start formally notifying owners and dealers until Dec. 11: https://static.nhtsa.gov/odi/rcl/2020/RCLRPT-20V630-7305.PDF

(That filing also seems to say the recall action consists of a BMS update and inspection.)

I wonder if that means Hyundai is hoping to find out more in the next two months and adjust the recall action accordingly.

I'll be really annoyed if Hyundai figures out that the first action it took wasn't sufficient, and everyone has to take multiple trips to the dealership.
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This notice actually INCLUDES my manufacture date. I'm assuming the Canadian recall will follow suit.
**Edit - Well my VIN is now officially posted on the Canadian Hyundai website. Sigh.
 
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My 2019 Kona has both the 906 TSB and the 196 Recall (according to the Hyundai USA site).

Is there reason to take care of the 906 TSB sooner rather than later? Or would you just wait until they're ready to deal with the Recall? I'd rather just make a single trip if I can.
 
NRH said:
My 2019 Kona has both the 906 TSB and the 196 Recall (according to the Hyundai USA site).

Is there reason to take care of the 906 TSB sooner rather than later? Or would you just wait until they're ready to deal with the Recall? I'd rather just make a single trip if I can.
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Since there's no timeline for the recall yet you'll just need to decide whether you feel comfortable operating the vehicle without the BMS reprogramming in the interim. It's possible that the TSB might prevent potential battery issues while you wait for Hyundai's more permanent (drastic?) recall solution. Tough to decide given how opaque Hyundai has been about both the problem and the solutions.
 
NRH said:
My 2019 Kona has both the 906 TSB and the 196 Recall (according to the Hyundai USA site).

Is there reason to take care of the 906 TSB sooner rather than later? Or would you just wait until they're ready to deal with the Recall? I'd rather just make a single trip if I can.
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Without any of the updates, you have fewer protections against overcharging of individual cells, and the battery thermal management wasn't working for lots of people in hot weather. Now where you are in Maine, and given the time of year, over-heating the battery probably isn't going to be a concern until next summer. But over-charging is still a possibility if your pack was getting out of balance.

I guess I can suggest a couple of things:
  1. If possible, use the Torque Pro of SoulEVSpy smartphone apps to check the current battery cell voltages, and see whether the pack is out of balance or not. If all of the 98 battery cells are all within at least 0.02V, then you are in really good shape. If the voltage difference is < 0.1V, you are probably still OK. More than this? Not sure - you might need a new battery pack - that's something the dealer will have to figure out.
  2. The recall suggests parking the car outside away from other vehicles until the recall is complete.
  3. You might want to limit charging to 80% until one or both updates have been applied.
The anecdotal reports we have seen suggest that the recall will do a better job of balancing the pack. But nobody in the English-speaking world has this update.
 
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