PSA: Recall for HV Battery

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Rexsio said:
You driving a lemon is like Russian rulete you don’t know what you drive if is yours or one of 128 units sold in USA and BMW can’t pin point which car is there a Lemon can heart you or burn your house to a ground
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This is precisely it. They can’t pin point the cars so will apply it as a blanket
 
Mine is a 2024 model year and was built October 2023 IIRC. It's impacted by the recall so will call my dealer Tuesday.
 
Oh wow, it also resets the GOM. I charged overnight from about 40% to full, and it's showing me (a smidge) more than the EPA/NRCan estimated range for the first time in about 18 months!

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I made a video on the subject its maybe too long but i tried
My EV Is A FIRE RISK! | Mini Cooper SE Recall!
 
MrSnrub said:
I made a video on the subject its maybe too long but i tried
My EV Is A FIRE RISK! | Mini Cooper SE Recall!
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Interesting that MINI Canada is advising parking outside/away from structures, where MINI USA is not (not that I have seen anyway).

Call me a gambler, but with the odds of an incident apparently being less than 1 in 60,000, I'm not worrying about it.
 
CuriousGeorge said:
Interesting that MINI Canada is advising parking outside/away from structures, where MINI USA is not (not that I have seen anyway).

Call me a gambler, but with the odds of an incident apparently being less than 1 in 60,000, I'm not worrying about it.
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Neither am I but why take risk
 
MrSnrub said:
Neither am I but why take risk
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HV battery in SE is 400 Volt battery if fix is by dealer to reprogram BMS discharge battery to 30%. And where those electrons are going in split second what this is preventing ? That battery is still 400 Volts with 30% and if thermal runaway happens is more then enough Volts energy to burn anything .Do we know anything about that recall? All we going to see more SE’s on fire than two?so far .Can BMW put solid statement what we can expect from SE in USA as CA did the word FIRE on NHTSA recall don’t make me so comfortable driving and storage in garage my much admire automobile. Electric scooters fires :IMG_1636.webp
 
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Rexsio said:
HV battery in SE is 400 Volt battery if fix is by dealer to reprogram BMS discharge battery to 30%. And where those electrons are going in split second what this is preventing ?
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One possibility is that the software is intended to detect a potential problem well in an advance of the possibility of any thermal runaway, and as someone else already suggested, simply prevent charging above the 30% level.

Whether it actually works that way and whether that would be adequate are separate questions. But, the above would explain why it isn't necessary to discharge the battery rapidly, but in a controlled (vs. uncontrolled) fashion.

(How many electric scooters in NYC?)
 
CuriousGeorge said:
One possibility is that the software is intended to detect a potential problem well in an advance of the possibility of any thermal runaway, and as someone else already suggested, simply prevent charging above the 30% level.

Whether it actually works that way and whether that would be adequate are separate questions. But, the above would explain why it isn't necessary to discharge the battery rapidly, but in a controlled (vs. uncontrolled) fashion.

(How many electric scooters in NYC?)
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To answer your question i try to find out and I get a number of 65.000 but as they illegal unregistered in reality nobody knows how many ?but as 2 SE’s catch a fire 2 is so many already .Why Canada ban them from garages and USA authorities didn’t put any statement about it?
 
Rexsio said:
To answer your question i try to find out and I get a number of 65.000 but as they illegal unregistered in reality nobody knows how many ?but as 2 SE’s catch a fire 2 is so many already .Why Canada ban them from garages and USA authorities didn’t put any statement about it?
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So over 1 in 100 vs less than 1 in 60,000. Are people parking their personal e-scooters outdoors? Those seem like the real risk!

(I'm actually more worried about tripping over one and breaking something, but that's really the fault of inconsiderate users, not the technology.)
 
CuriousGeorge said:
So over 1 in 100 vs less than 1 in 60,000. Are people parking their personal e-scooters outdoors? Those seem like the real risk!

(I'm actually more worried about tripping over one and breaking something, but that's really the fault of inconsiderate users, not the technology.)
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Should I park SE in garage or on street what could be you answer
 
Rexsio said:
Should I park SE in garage or on street what could be you answer
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Mine is currently charging in our garage, which is directly below our bedroom. Considering that there is about a 1 in 15,000 chance of the house catching on fire due to other reasons (including due to spontaneous combustion of the ICE vehicle parked next to it), I'm comfortable with that. YM, of course, MV (pardon the pun).
 
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Possibility of SE here being exposed to more moisture and corrosion from winter? That doesn't end at the border though... many areas of USA are same as the climate here in Montreal for example..
 
MrSnrub said:
Possibility of SE here being exposed to more moisture and corrosion from winter? That doesn't end at the border though... many areas of USA are same as the climate here in Montreal for example..
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I thought of that, but it was really more of a rhetorical question, meant to illustrate that determining the risk is really a judgement call, with the US and Canadian governments differing in their opinions.

You see the same sort of variation in other cases, e.g , it's far easier to get a drug approved in Europe than in the US, even based on the same data.
 
I have 2 theories:
1. According to recent information the Mini uses CATL 811 cells. CATL had a lot of problems with that chemistry (web information and news) and maybe thats the clue. 5 months ago i requested information from BMW over the email with direct question what batteries are being used in our cars. The only answer i received is that it uses Battery type S14, generation 4.5 - no answer regarding the chemistry.
2. Most EV use aluminium case for the batteries, but the Mini uses regular iron. Maybe corrosion is starting to build up on some vehicles battery pack and moisture is getting inside....

Anyway, i think this software update is only tool to keep an eye of our cars BUT not a permanent fix. So if you see that your dashboard lights as a christmas tree or car is preventing from charging over 30%, then you have a problem. My car is only 9 months old and my first EV.

Best Regards!
 
M.Tray said:
I have 2 theories:
1. According to recent information the Mini uses CATL 811 cells. CATL had a lot of problems with that chemistry (web information and news) and maybe thats the clue. 5 months ago i requested information from BMW over the email with direct question what batteries are being used in our cars. The only answer i received is that it uses Battery type S14, generation 4.5 - no answer regarding the chemistry.
2. Most EV use aluminium case for the batteries, but the Mini uses regular iron. Maybe corrosion is starting to build up on some vehicles battery pack and moisture is getting inside....

Anyway, i think this software update is only tool to keep an eye of our cars BUT not a permanent fix. So if you see that your dashboard lights as a christmas tree or car is preventing from charging over 30%, then you have a problem. My car is only 9 months old and my first EV.

Best Regards!
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Metal cases arent that uncommon for EV battery. Model 3 battery is stamped steel and many other EVs My Fiat is aluminium
 
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