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Then I test drove a Kona BEV, and the power and nimbleness quickly turned me off the gutless PHEVs of that time.
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Most Americans now have the opposite view:

Ford scraps all-electric SUV plan, saying drivers want hybrids​



EV sales are in the tank. So what happens next?​



Tesla is saying goodbye to 2 of its EV models. As sales and deliveries fall, Elon Musk is focusing on this instead​


The carmaker used its quarterly earnings report to describe itself as a ‘physical AI company.’ So far, investors don’t seem rattled by the pivot.

 
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John321 said:
The carmaker used its quarterly earnings report to describe itself as a ‘physical AI company.’ So far, investors don’t seem rattled by the pivot.
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No one seems rattled by what appears to be certifiable nut jobs running major corporations and many countries either. Everything should be fine once he builds his safe space on the moon. I thought he was getting in a little deep when he wanted to do it on Mars.
 
As noted above multiple times, it really does depend on each owner's circumstances. Having two Claritys continues to be very convenient and cost effective for us. High electricity costs here in California ($0.47 per kW average last year for our household) have minimal impact because we have a net-zero rooftop solar system, so charging both cars costs nothing. Our first Clarity (bought in December 2018 and used occasionally for cross-country trips) has been driven 66% EV over 63k miles; the second Clarity (bought in February 2025) is 88% EV over the 8k miles we've put on it (53k total on the odometer). Of course, we did have to pay for our rooftop solar but, based on my calculations, we'll hit total return-on-investment for that sometime in the next few months. Given our circumstances, both PHEVs and solar have been exceptionally cost-effective. As an added bonus, the Claritys have been exceptionally comfortable, efficient, and easy to maintain cars. While it certainly won't be the case for everyone, it sure hit the sweet spot for us
 
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No one seems rattled by what appears to be certifiable nut jobs running major corporations and many countries either. Everything should be fine once he builds his safe space on the moon. I thought he was getting in a little deep when he wanted to do it on Mars.
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I wish America had many more of these "nut jobs" who provide good paying jobs, great products, productivity, wealth etc. to their country and fellow citizens.

... and wish America had many less people who take, take, take and take more from our country but never give anything back!
 
John321 said:
I wish America had many more of these "nut jobs" who provide good paying jobs, great products, productivity, wealth etc. to their country and fellow citizens.

... and wish America had many less people who take, take, take and take more from our country but never give anything back!
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Indeed. The world needs more people who donate a minuscule fraction of a percentage of their net worth to charities, most of which goes to organizations they control. Combine that with the warm relationships with employees and an impeccable record with the NLRB, what’s not to love?

Perhaps his ultimate AI achievement will be to eliminate the need for him to receive a pay package. That would be efficient.
 
Why didn't you mention all the people who have gainful employment, benefits and job security from his many enterprises?
Why didn't you mention his company's positive contribution to society - starlink communications, space travel, reliable land transportation, making electric transportation for many a reality, robotics etc.?
He is providing good jobs and positive contributions to society each day.

If that wasn't enough he selflessly volunteered to uncover the tons and tons of waste and fraud in our government.
Just look at the unending fraud recently exposed in Minnesota and now California. Add on New York, Massachusetts etc money laundering billions and billions of taxpayer dollars to fraudulent payment for housing, food, education etc to illegal migrants.

Musk probably has personal problems but I would guess no more than most - that doesn't take away from the good he does.
Compare his positive impacts on society with what you have done and you will quickly see how your contributions are lacking in the comparison.
How many companies have you started to provide jobs to your fellow man?

For myself I give back to society through volunteerism, charitable contributions, Military Service for the United States and raising our children to be productive citizens while obeying laws and trying to be a good example - but my contributions to society pale in comparison to individuals like Mr. Musk.

... but I get it... you have a political axe to grind and are blinded by political nonsense to being able to see both sides or view a person objectively.

at this point I'll disconnect from further conversations with you - people responding as you have are a dime a dozen - they have no interest in listening or constructive communication - their only concern is shouting their nonsense out at others while never taking the time to actual listen to what someone may be saying or critical evaluating people and facts.




The Giving Pledge: A commitment to give​

The Giving Pledge is a commitment by some of the world’s wealthiest individuals and families to dedicate the majority of their wealth to addressing society’s most pressing problems. Started by Warren Buffett and Bill and Melinda Gates in 2010, the initiative encourages billionaires to pledge at least half of their fortunes to charitable causes during their lifetimes or in their wills. Elon Musk joined this esteemed group of philanthropists in 2012.

While Musk’s participation in the Giving Pledge has garnered attention, he has been relatively reserved in terms of publicizing his charitable endeavors compared to some of his billionaire peers. He has often chosen to direct his resources towards innovative solutions to global challenges.

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Elon Musk Philanthropy: A Visionary’s Impact Beyond Innovation

Elon Musk, the enigmatic entrepreneur and visionary behind companies like Tesla, SpaceX, and Neuralink, has not only revolutionized industries but
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I find it sad how many past Musk supporters turned on him and his cars, after all he has done for us who now drive EVs. Would not have happened without him.
 
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