Is an EV MINI really a MINI?

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Rexsio said:
2019 market is ancient history todays market is just crazy.
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Market is cooling in pre owned. Floor plans are mostly financed and rates are rising. Lots of dealers will be stuck with stuff throughout the winter here unless they decide to unload at auction. Carrying anything over 90 days is a issue for dealers.
 
MrSnrub said:
I’d be curious to see how many new Mini owners purchase the SE vs existing Mini owners who have had one or a few.
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I, for one, abandoned my penchant for Jeeps with big V-8's when it reached $80 to refill the gas tank. I bought a MINI SE, after having also owned at various times lots of different vehicles -- from non-MINI BMWs to Mercedes to Ford to Mercury to (gasp, I hate to admit it) Cadillac. While my core needs from a vehicle have undoubtedly changed over the years, I have to say that the MINI SE is probably the best (and "funnest" to drive) car I have ever owned.

That said, this one may be my last MINI SE, as I am unlikely to purchase one manufactured in the PRC. Hopefully, there will eventully be a free trade agreement with the post-Brexit UK to allow BMW to continue to supply the North American market with Oxford-built MINI SEs.
 
insightman said:
The joint venture with Great Wall Motor seems like an exit plan to me--maybe not just an exit from Britain, but even from the make.
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Well, IMHO BMW better start planning an exit from the PRC (and Great Wall Motor), especially if they want to serve the North American market.

BTW, China already has big problems coming up with sufficient electricity to charge EVs, even though EVs are still a rather small (but still substantial) % of the overall vehicle market there. Many people there who can afford an EV live in high-rise buildings and must use public-charging during hours they are awake, which has put a bubble of demand on their grid.
 
Texas22Step said:
I, for one, abandoned my penchant for Jeeps with big V-8's when it reached $80 to refill the gas tank. I bought a MINI SE, after having also owned at various times lots of different vehicles -- from non-MINI BMWs to Mercedes to Ford to Mercury to (gasp, I hate to admit it) Cadillac. While my core needs from a vehicle have undoubtedly changed over the years, I have to say that the MINI SE is probably the best (and "funnest" to drive) car I have ever owned.

That said, this one may be my last MINI SE, as I am unlikely to purchase one manufactured in the PRC. Hopefully, there will eventully be a free trade agreement with the post-Brexit UK to allow BMW to continue to supply the North American market with Oxford-built MINI SEs.
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I won’t be purchasing a Mini built in China. However I’d purchase a Volvo built there. The Polestar 2 seems like a fantastic car.. I’ll find out next month on vacation in Switzerland. I’d also go for an MG if they were offered here
 
MrSnrub said:
I won’t be purchasing a Mini built in China. However I’d purchase a Volvo built there. The Polestar 2 seems like a fantastic car.. I’ll find out next month on vacation in Switzerland. I’d also go for an MG if they were offered here
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It appears the MINI Cooper SE won't be only sporty EV forever. The Polestar 6 might be a nice weekend alternative.
 
insightman said:
It appears the MINI Cooper SE won't be only sporty EV forever. The Polestar 6 might be a nice weekend alternative.
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Polestar 6 in 2026 for $200000 as weekend driver I always take a Porsche Taycan turbo S with lower range over any weekend driver and as Polestar used for $60000 I buy 3 SEs different colors for every second day to drive them with my rebates and price $ 22500 I buy one second one for myself and one for my Cat Logan to utilize my rebates .
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Rexsio said:
I really appreciate what you did to insert cat into my SE .Computers is not my think at all.That picture was send to all my friends .Thanks
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I was lucky you took the photos of your lovely SE and the handsome Logan at roughly the same angle.
 
polyphonic said:
To answer the OP I would like to quote Mr. Mark Goose: the MINI is “Better with a battery.”
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I can't believe I've never seen that two year-old video, I really liked it.

Random observations:
  • Is "F56 BEV" really stamped on the underside of all SEs?
  • "Crucifix wheels" (interesting perspective on Power Spoke wheels)
  • "MINI doesn't expect to sell a lot of these."
  • "It has the right amount of torque at any miles per hour."
  • "It really is great."
 
Puppethead said:
I can't believe I've never seen that two year-old video, I really liked it.

Random observations:
  • Is "F56 BEV" really stamped on the underside of all SEs?
  • "Crucifix wheels" (interesting perspective on Power Spoke wheels)
  • "MINI doesn't expect to sell a lot of these."
  • "It has the right amount of torque at any miles per hour."
  • "It really is great."
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I love the part where he expected it to be a gimmick and then ended up gushing over it for the rest of the video.

Harry Metcalfe (Harry's Garage) has a good video too, in case you haven't seen that one.

Sounds like they are selling way beyond expectations. We have two in the family with one on a boat right now. At this point I intend to take it with or without the credit.

Funnily enough I ended up driving a Taycan on a few occasions and always seemed to conclude "yeah, it's good, but..." whereas the SE is like "holy cow this little thing rips!" Instant smiles on faces, every trip has been a joy.
 
Aquavir said:
Sorry for the clickbait thread title but I want some opinions on this. This will be my first MINI and although I don’t have all the time in the world to commit to hobbies, I’ve been thinking that it might be fun to join a local club and partake in some of this vibrant MINI culture. But I have a question, mostly for the non-virgin MINI owners out there: Is the SE accepted as part of the motoring heritage of this iconic brand, or a bit of a black sheep?
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I'm a virgin Mini owner and a 20+-year BMW driver. When I heard that Mini was coming out with an electric version, I signed up for notifications (none of which ever arrived). Finally, after selling the BMW, crawling through the worst of the pandemic, and having moved to Arizona, I decided to replace the BMW with a new car, preferably electric. Mini was only one of the cars I planned to test drive (finally! available here!). I tried it first (gas version; no electrics available for test) and fell in love with the Mini aesthetic and handling supported by all the BMW touches I was already familiar with. I got lucky and was able to pick up a canceled contract for the exact car I would have ordered. Sir Jackie arrived in December 2021. I would look with disdain at anyone who might suggest that Sir Jackie is any kind of lesser Mini because he's electric. I would suggest a bit of passive jealousy from anyone trying to make me feel deprived because of his limited range (I never come close to maxing out, and I drive every day). I love driving this car, and for me, that's what the Mini is about.
 
polyphonic said:
I love the part where he expected it to be a gimmick and then ended up gushing over it for the rest of the video.

Harry Metcalfe (Harry's Garage) has a good video too, in case you haven't seen that one.

Sounds like they are selling way beyond expectations. We have two in the family with one on a boat right now. At this point I intend to take it with or without the credit.

Funnily enough I ended up driving a Taycan on a few occasions and always seemed to conclude "yeah, it's good, but..." whereas the SE is like "holy cow this little thing rips!" Instant smiles on faces, every trip has been a joy.
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My neighbour has a Taycan and it’s been really plagued with issues. I love it and was at the launch event but connecting an iPhone and it turns off doesn’t sound like fun. Also the roads Harry was driving on are near Burford Oxfordshire(we spend lots of time there) Think clarksons farm. Those roads are proper for all conditions

My dealer let us drive the SE for extended periods and after the first 5 mins we were sold. The second time we went it was just to confirm the order and drive for giggles again. That’s how good of a car it is
 
CillaM said:
I would suggest a bit of passive jealousy from anyone trying to make me feel deprived because of his limited range (I never come close to maxing out, and I drive every day). I love driving this car, and for me, that's what the Mini is about.
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Explain that the MINI SE does NOT have limited range; it has ideal range. It’s a city car, it’s the only BEV city car (in the US). BMW has hit a home run with the SE. Even w/o the tax credit it’s still a great car.


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If one is using it for its intended purpose as you point out, I completely agree. It iunfortunate for those who would find it perfect but just need a bit more range because of our personal new case.
 
Almostseb said:
If one is using it for its intended purpose as you point out, I completely agree. It iunfortunate for those who would find it perfect but just need a bit more range because of our personal new case.
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@Almostseb, you've identified the case for having the more practical car instead the more fun/less-expensive to operate car.

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