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I think there is a good article that compares the recent Lucid announcements and studio visit to the Tesla Model S Plaid delivery event:
  • carbon wrapped rotor
  • battery management
  • sound both isolation and playing
  • drag both aerodynamic and rolling
  • L2 and fast DC charging (note Lucid has no product in owner hands)
  • cost
In reality, the top competitors to Tesla, best EV vehicles, could be part of the article but that would be both a reading and writing challenge (use tables?) To be fair, the article needs to be EVs with owner finger prints. As Elon once said, 'PowerPoint products never fail.'

Bob Wilson
 
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bwilson4web said:
I think there is a good article that compares the recent Lucid announcements and studio visit to the Tesla Model S Plaid delivery event:
  • carbon wrapped rotor
  • battery management
  • sound both isolation and playing
  • drag both aerodynamic and rolling
  • L2 and fast DC charging (note Lucid has no product in owner hands)
  • cost
In reality, the top competitors to Tesla, best EV vehicles, could be part of the article but that would be both a reading and writing challenge (use tables?) To be fair, the article needs to be EVs with owner finger prints. As Elon once said, 'PowerPoint products never fail.'

Bob Wilson
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I think we need more info on motors (dimensions, etc) and batteries, or see the vehicles torn down to make a good comparison. I suspect the motors are pretty close in size, but I don't know what sort of RPM the Lucid motors do. They may have a similar kind of carbon wrap, for all I know. I'm pretty certain the Rimac Nevera does, as Mate Rimac hinted as much in a Facebook post.

I'm super curious about Tesla's new pack design for S/X, but we don't know anything about it other than it uses an improved version of the 18650 cells. I understand Lucid uses a dielectric fluid immersion cooling setup, which should be pretty efficient and effective.

The aerodynamic part of thisd is also super interesting. While I'd of liked to see more styling change from Tesla, the fact that its Cd is lower than the Lucid (or Mercedes EQS, for that matter) is pretty amazing. I'd like to see those 3 checked out by an independent tester just to verify those numbers, they're so amazing.

We hope to do a full 70-mph range and 0-to-100 charging test once they begin delivering, which I believe Tom thinks may be as soon as September.
 
We really need vehicle-vs-vehicle testing like the old Edmunds 'Smackdown' series. Sad to say, Lucid has a delivery to customer problem ... no customer cars have been delivered.

Bob Wilson
 
During the podcast kyle called out the need for someone on the podcast to discuss the security of firmware and secure transmission of telematics. I designed the telematics security system for 3 of the OEM's, and would be happy to discuss it on the podcast. I am a veteran of IT Security, with a background in Military Intel.
 
I actually watched/listened to the whole thing. But wow, 1 hour 22 min,... thank goodness for youtube settings to speed it up. There were some interesting tidbits, sure could have cut many other parts down. The initial Kona range talk was particular tiresome, as nothing new, and just restating the obvious. Could have been done in 2 minutes.

I agree that many of the car makers made a big mistake with selling or outsourcing their battery production. This is the most expensive component in the car, and could be your competitive advantage. Not to mention all the current supply chain issues.

The Silverado EV will be interesting. Should be a good competitor to the F150. I think currently GM has the lead/advantage with EV experience, but will have to wait and see. I think that Cybertruck thing will have a hard time competing with them. GM and Ford certainly have a lot of truck experience, and am sure they have a good handle on what their buyers are looking for. And there are a lot of dealer showrooms to show them off.

It was also interesting that city dwellers that ditched their cars in favour of public transit or Uber might now be looking to buy an EV after the past year's covid experience.
 
Thanks for watching/listening. Yeah, the show goes a bit long, and this one was a tad shorter than a lot we've done. We were short a Kyle, and I think he helps move things along nicely (he'll be back next week).
I'm pretty excited about the trucks coming and I think they all have their own audience. Unless one turns out to be a real dog, I think they'll all be production constrained for a while.
 
Ford just came out with the new Maverick and Hyundai with the Santa Cruz. They should have made them full blown BEVs. The F150 and Silverado are too big for some. There is a big gap in the market for a small truck BEV.
 
You guys always forget about the Bolt. It often does well above the EPA range. I've gotten 300+ miles a few times. Including a trip of trail ridge road.

Last night I drove 140 miles (doing Uber) and got 4.6mi/kWh.


I've also gotten 160 miles in really bad weather at 75mph

Check this wirteup on my trail ridge road trip
High-Altitude Driving in a Chevy Bolt EV
https://www.linkedin.com/pulse/high-altitude-driving-chevy-bolt-ev-mark-richards



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R P said:
Ford just came out with the new Maverick and Hyundai with the Santa Cruz. They should have made them full blown BEVs. The F150 and Silverado are too big for some. There is a big gap in the market for a small truck BEV.
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Agreed. I've owned a 02 avalanche since it was new. But after having small cars as the daily driver for a few years I don't feel the need for a full size truck anymore. Make the Colorado an EV and I'd likely be a buyer.
 
Mark Richards said:
You guys always forget about the Bolt. It often does well above the EPA range. I've gotten 300+ miles a few times. Including a trip of trail ridge road.
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Well, they are tending to talk about stuff that is new or in the works. They don't talk much about any models that are in production unless there is a big problem of some sort.
 
R P said:
Ford just came out with the new Maverick and Hyundai with the Santa Cruz. They should have made them full blown BEVs. The F150 and Silverado are too big for some. There is a big gap in the market for a small truck BEV.
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On today's episode, we talk a bit about the just announced mid-size Ram electric pickup.
 
Mark Richards said:
You guys always forget about the Bolt. It often does well above the EPA range. I've gotten 300+ miles a few times. Including a trip of trail ridge road.

Last night I drove 140 miles (doing Uber) and got 4.6mi/kWh.


I've also gotten 160 miles in really bad weather at 75mph

Check this wirteup on my trail ridge road trip
High-Altitude Driving in a Chevy Bolt EV
https://www.linkedin.com/pulse/high-altitude-driving-chevy-bolt-ev-mark-richards



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Thanks for sharing. Yes, the Bolt EV/EUV gets overlooked. I do recommend it as a good value to friends, but it gets overlooked sometimes because it's not on the latest platform. I need to get some time in the refreshed version. Like the new look and want to put some miles on one.
 
I watched another one!! Again, thank goodness for the 1.5 speed youtube setting.

But you guys were kind if anything, to the dying Stellantis merger participants. Announcing 2024 EVs using yesterday's technology is truly desperate. Real shame, as they actually have a couple of great brands today, Jeep and Ram, which are very popular and relevant. If they were smart, they would sell them off to Ford or GM while they still have some value, to give current loyal owners some hope for the future. eMuscle will be a dud, too.

That Vanderhall looked cool, though, and could fill a niche. Something that Jeep could buy out to help save their brand.
 
R P said:
I watched another one!! Again, thank goodness for the 1.5 speed youtube setting.

But you guys were kind if anything, to the dying Stellantis merger participants. Announcing 2024 EVs using yesterday's technology is truly desperate. Real shame, as they actually have a couple of great brands today, Jeep and Ram, which are very popular and relevant. If they were smart, they would sell them off to Ford or GM while they still have some value, to give current loyal owners some hope for the future. eMuscle will be a dud, too.

That Vanderhall looked cool, though, and could fill a niche. Something that Jeep could buy out to help save their brand.
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The Wrangler 4xE is getting some good reviews. Hopefully it will translate as well to other vehicles in the lineup.

The Dodge Zeo concept in 2008 was my entrance into auto writing, and they won't have an electric offering until 16 years later. Quite a feat (in the worst sense).
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I’m seeing a pattern that outsourced EV drivetrains have consistently mediocre performance. Lacking skilled engineers, this is the best they can do.

FYI, panel gaps never improved 0-60 mph times nor miles per kWhr efficiency. As for charging speed, ‘silly wabbit.’

Bob Wilson
 
Electrify America has a long term funding and operational budget problem that can be solved following the Tesla model … tax the CCS-1 manufacturers. Tesla taxes their buyers at purchase and has a ve$ted interest in keeping it current and expanding. They may not realize it today but so too do the CCS-1 EV makers.

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