I was told today because of recall 200, Hyundai wants buy back our cars

... but a limit of 10% max of purchase price for the deduction.

Is that max 10% of purchase price because of being in PA, or is that just what Hyundai is saying how much they will deduct? If so, this would be really great for me since my mileage is like 35k and in CA, they calculate mileage/120k, so it'd be closer to 30% for me. :)
 
Sadly I own one of these and I have already had the motor replaced.
The people running these corporations:
it’s all about quarterly profits and their bonuses. They will do absolutely everything to get the share price up.
I am sure there will be lots of foot dragging to replace batteries or buy back thousands of vehicles.
I wouldn’t be surprised if we are still talking about this next year


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Look they are not stupid. Here in Canada, once your at 60k or 3yrs, whichever comes first, your SOL as fir arbitration. Come next Feb is my 3yrs and I'm already at 40,000km, so I will be at their mercy with whatever they want to do. And I'm not confident these batteries will show up by then. Look the biggest drawback in EV production is the availability of batteries. Does one thing , that they just decided to replace the batteries , I don't think so. Now it would have been brilliant that they would have already sourced the batteries and are already installing them, which they are not. Priority for batteries will goto brand new cars that they will profit from, not loosing money on immediately installing batteries at a loss.
Hyundai, I know your listening and your minions are reading these boards.
Well guess what , my future vehicles will possibly at this stage will not be Hyundai and thats from a long loyal Hyundai owner of numerous Hyundai cars. Nor will I be praising the Hyundai brand . My wife will not drive it and it's basically her vehicle.
 
Look they are not stupid. Here in Canada, once your at 60k or 3yrs, whichever comes first, your SOL as fir arbitration. Come next Feb is my 3yrs and I'm already at 40,000km, so I will be at their mercy with whatever they want to do. And I'm not confident these batteries will show up by then. Look the biggest drawback in EV production is the availability of batteries. Does one thing , that they just decided to replace the batteries , I don't think so. Now it would have been brilliant that they would have already sourced the batteries and are already installing them, which they are not. Priority for batteries will goto brand new cars that they will profit from, not loosing money on immediately installing batteries at a loss.
Hyundai, I know your listening and your minions are reading these boards.
Well guess what , my future vehicles will possibly at this stage will not be Hyundai and thats from a long loyal Hyundai owner of numerous Hyundai cars. Nor will I be praising the Hyundai brand . My wife will not drive it and it's basically her vehicle.
Recalls supercede warranties.
 
I sure hope so but I don't trust corporations because they have gobs of money to pay fancy lawyers to find loopholes and screw the little guy.
I'm not feeling that confident at the rate they are dragging their heels.
Other then some bricked cars, I haven't read of any that have had the battery replaced under the recall. Surely they didn't just go, okay we are gonna replace the battery let's put a battery order in now.
 
I still really like Hyundai and have had mostly good experience with them so far. Obviously a lot can change, especially depending on the buyback offer and for that matter if I reject it then what do they do? Because again, 80% of what they sold me is not an acceptable solution.

I think you make a very good point about batteries being more likely to be used for new cars and profit than to replace our old batteries. This may be one of the main reasons they (apparently) prefer buyback in the US. Though I think they sold way more Kona Electrics in Korea and I was fairly confident they've already begun replacing batteries there. Maybe I am misremembering something I saw online though. Or, maybe that's why the Kona electric sales were stopped in Korea. Batteries are going to replacements. In comparison, it at least still appears that new 2022 model Kona Electrics will be going on sale here soon. My local dealer said they expect by end of June but admittedly I don't think they have any special or inside info here.
 
Is that max 10% of purchase price because of being in PA, or is that just what Hyundai is saying how much they will deduct? If so, this would be really great for me since my mileage is like 35k and in CA, they calculate mileage/120k, so it'd be closer to 30% for me. :)
Unfortunately, the way I'm taking the information Hyundai and Sedgwick have given me, along with what others have posted, I'm pretty sure they're using each individual state's Lemon law to determine the deduction for mileage. And in PA it's very much in my favor, from what I can tell. Pure luck.
 
Can you guys post which number you called?


I assume you got this letter because of your call? How much haranguing did you have to do?
To follow up, here is the lemon law information about depreciation calculations for MD and PA:

MD: "If your car is a lemon, you are entitled to a replacement vehicle or the manufacturer must refund the full purchase price minus an allowance for use, not to exceed 15 percent of the purchase price". So if you paid $40,000 for example, the most they could deduct would be $6000, which is less than the Federal tax credit, which in my opinion is a pretty big win. But I'm making a lot of assumptions here of course.

PA: "The manufacturer is allowed to receive a reasonable offset for your use of the vehicle that you are having problems with. That refund offset can total no more than 10% of the purchase price of the vehicle or $.10 for each mile driven before the first reported repair." Just note that the PA lemon law only covers the first year of ownership so technically we're not eligible under the Lemon law, I don't believe. That probably doesn't matter as it appears Hyundai is buying the cars back either way and just using each state's law as a guide for how to determine depreciation. If that's the case then I'm likely going to be very happy with their offer, since I live in PA. If the max they deduct is about $4000, I would of course absolutely take that.

Anyway, as I mentioned once already, I'm making a lot of assumptions here. Either way at least folks in these states at least have some idea what the law says, might come in handy when in discussions / negotiations about the buyback.

Mattsburgh, I bought my Kona from a MD dealer but live in OR. Which lemon law is applicable: MD or OR?
 
Mattsburgh, I bought my Kona from a MD dealer but live in OR. Which lemon law is applicable: MD or OR?

That would be my question, too. I bought my 2019 Ultimate in Baltimore, MD, and drove it home to Florida. It was never registered in MD, only in FL. Does the FL lemon law apply to me, or the MD one?
 
Mattsburgh, I bought my Kona from a MD dealer but live in OR. Which lemon law is applicable: MD or OR?

I bought mine in MD too. I'm not positive of course but pretty sure the law that is relevant is the one where you live. So for me, PA and for you, Oregon.

The PA law seems to indicate that is the case, it says: "The Pennsylvania Automobile Lemon Law applies to any new vehicle purchased or leased and registered in Pennsylvania or purchased or leased elsewhere and registered for the first time in the commonwealth for personal, family or household use"
 
I bought my 2019 Ultimate in Baltimore, MD, and drove it home to Florida. It was never registered in MD, only in FL. Does the FL lemon law apply to me, or the MD one?
Actually it might be your choice. If FL and MD are like most other states, you would qualify in FL because the car is registered there as well as MD because that's where you bought the car.

Assume FL is easier for you, but you should be able to get the answers by looking at the state's websites.
 
Sedgwick puts the paperwork together, calculates the depreciation deduction based on which US state you're in and your mileage... and then sends it BACK to Hyundai and then Hyundai will email you an actual offer letter with price, which you can accept or reject. If you accept, they then set up an appointment where you will meet with their rep at a dealership to hand over the car (and get paid).
Do you know what the time frame is?

I would prefer not to have to rent a car or be without one. It may take me a few weeks to locate and purchase a replacement vehicle. Is there a time limit for setting up the appointment?
 
My dealer yesterday knew nothing about possible timelines for replacement. He did however confirm that they are buying a lift table in anticipation of doing the battery swaps at some point.
My service guy whined the blues that they gotta spend the money on a special lift and can't see why they just can't use a couple of Jack's to do it. That definitely did not give me a soft and fuzzy feeling.
And I'm suppose to feel confident about this stuff.
Gotta do a long trip tm and let's see how many times, the level 3 charger will stop and i will have to reconnect it. If it happens again, this time I will be taking pics.
 
After reading everything here, I am a little confused. Do these recall/battery issues only include the 2019 Kona EV, or is the 2020 Kona EV also a concern, as I have a family member who is in a lease with the 2020? Are there any issues with my 2020 Ioniq EV, and if any of our cars were being recalled, shouldn't we have received a recall notice from Hyunai?

I have a 2020 and spoke with Hyundai customer care a few days ago. Even though my car falls into the time period of faulty batteries being built in 2019 and that it had received two recalls to mitigate battery fires it is currently not under any recall, specifically 200.

I was told I could drive and charge the car as intended and park inside if I would like too. I have zero confidence in this information.
 
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