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For any Canadian readers getting a 14-50 receptacle installed to supply a plug-in EVSE such as any of the Grizzl-E residential models, note that the CEC since 2017 requires all such outlets to be protected by GFCI at the breaker:
625.54 Ground-Fault Circuit-Interrupter Protection for Personnel.

All single-phase receptacles installed for the connection of electric vehicle charging that are rated 150 volts to ground or less, and 50 amperes or less shall have ground-fault circuit-interrupter protection for personnel.
Protection for Personnel.
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So, just like most construction materials and supplies, prices for such breakers have skyrocketed. I’ve been shopping both sides of the border for several weeks to find a 50 Amp Siemens or Murray GFCI breaker, but just about any place that has it listed for less than US$200/CA$260 doesn’t have stock. Finally, I checked one of my favo(u)rite lighting parts suppliers — bulbspro.com in Toronto — and they have the Siemens QF250A in stock for CA$160 plus a small amount for shipping. Overall, that’s even cheaper than Lowes and Menards in the US if they weren’t back ordered.

ETA: I searched and couldn’t find a real breaker thread, but if someone points me to one, I can post in it to help out anybody else about to do this.
 
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So, just like most construction materials and supplies, prices for such breakers have skyrocketed. I’ve been shopping both sides of the border for several weeks to find a 50 Amp Siemens or Murray GFCI breaker, but just about any place that has it listed for less than US$200/CA$260 doesn’t have stock. Finally, I checked one of my favo(u)rite lighting parts suppliers — bulbspro.com in Toronto — and they have the Siemens QF250A in stock for CA$160 plus a small amount for shipping. Overall, that’s even cheaper than Lowes and Menards in the US if they weren’t back ordered.

ETA: I searched and couldn’t find a real breaker thread, but if someone points me to one, I can post in it to help out anybody else about to do this.
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I suppose that's one way to future proof with 40A for the next EV.

Maybe if you can get the Quebec EVSE rebate you could buy the cheapest portable Level 2 charger and pocket the $600. That should offset the increased costs and you'd have a portable Level 2 EVSE that works with NEMA 14-50.

https://vehiculeselectriques.gouv.q...mme-remboursement-borne-recharge-domicile.asp
 
My MA couldn’t tell me if the Canadian '23 will come with the FlexCharger, but MINI is offering a $649 voucher for a Grizzl-E for any SE purchased before the end of March (that must also be delivered by the end of May, so, yeah nah), and the RoulezVert fine print says such dealer/manufacturer rebates nullify the government incentive offer. I chose to wait for the RoulezVert program to get extended — which happened last week — and instead opted for a direct $500 discount from MINI.
 
SameGuy said:
My MA couldn’t tell me if the Canadian '23 will come with the FlexCharger, but MINI is offering a $649 voucher for a Grizzl-E for any SE purchased before the end of March (that must also be delivered by the end of May, so, yeah nah), and the RoulezVert fine print says such dealer/manufacturer rebates nullify the government incentive offer. I chose to wait for the RoulezVert program to get extended — which happened last week — and instead opted for a direct $500 discount from MINI.
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I didn't know EVSE prices have risen so much! Stupid inflation!
 
Read Somewhere about bmw I 3 you should have after 16 years about 50-60 % range if you keep a car for so long .
 
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