Clarity is for Old Folks? (poll)
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Fast Eddie B
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In my 60’s...for another month, anyway!
Fortunately, no specific age requirement for engaging Geriatric Mode!
Fortunately, no specific age requirement for engaging Geriatric Mode!
MrFixit
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True, although I could also argue that 'younger' people could be more apt to participate in a forum (ergo, the overall demographic could be older). Who knows.
Certainly not trying to predict the outcome of an election (even the 'experts' fail at this stuff)!!
I was in my 30s when I bought mine and am in my 40s now, so...
I would also expect the demographic to skew older if for no other reason than that it's not a cheap car so statistically older groups are more likely to be able to afford it.
I would actually guess, like MrFixit says, that the overall Clarity demographic is likely older, since on average I would expect the older demographic bin to be less likely to be participating in a forum like this.
I would also expect the demographic to skew older if for no other reason than that it's not a cheap car so statistically older groups are more likely to be able to afford it.
MNSteve
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I think that the fact that the poll is taken here will skew the results significantly. Not that they won't still be interesting. My impression is that the Facebook group probably captures most owners, who don't care to invest the time being here. And that forum is such a wealth of misinformation . . . a recent post warned that he OP needed to be sure that he had a transmission cooler installed.
MajorAward
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Two questions:
1. Are you sure you don't need a transmission cooler when installing a hitch for your bike rack?
2. What's a Facebook?
MNSteve
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Two questions:
1. Are you sure you don't need a transmission cooler when installing a hitch for your bike rack?
2. What's a Facebook?
1. Actually, the poster included a picture of a large trailer filled to overflowing with sacks of mulch or something similar. It was a bigger load than I would have been comfortable pulling with the Clarity, but given some care and the fact that it is not done on a regular basis, I don't really take issue with it. But the problem is that you're posting to an audience who will see that and think that they can routinely use the car to haul a large trailer full of cement. These people come up with some of the most amazing "facts" with no sources cited. It's just not the place to get reliable information about ANYTHING and yet there are literally millions of people who do exactly that.
2. A place to obtain reliable information about any topic, and to get your current news.
ClarityDoc
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Q: "What's aFacebook?"
A: "A place to obtain reliable information about any topic, and to get your current news."
ROTFL
A: "A place to obtain reliable information about any topic, and to get your current news."
ROTFL
I'd modify that a bit; I know several people including myself with PHEVs or EVs, and none of them park the car in the garage. What you do of course need is somewhere to plug it in to charge, though, which if you're stuck with on-street parking or in a shared lot with no power or charge points isn't an option.
One hopes that'll change, though, because the parking garage or lot for an apartment complex is an ideal place to slow-charge PHEVs or EVs overnight.
KentuckyKen
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Well, I’m “officially” old since last month Uncle Sam sent me a Medicare Card with our even asking me if I wanted it. If my son’s friends are indicative of the younger generation as a whole then I expect older demographics for Clarity ownership.
Most of his friends in their 20s are cost conscious and just look at upfront costs without taking a long term view. They also claim to be environmentally conscious but not when it affects their wallet. Additionally, many are renting apts or in town homes or condos where charging is problematic.
I think the skew in older Clarity ownership reflects the truth in the old cowboy saying, “Too soon old; too late smart.”
Most of his friends in their 20s are cost conscious and just look at upfront costs without taking a long term view. They also claim to be environmentally conscious but not when it affects their wallet. Additionally, many are renting apts or in town homes or condos where charging is problematic.
I think the skew in older Clarity ownership reflects the truth in the old cowboy saying, “Too soon old; too late smart.”
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PHEV Newbie
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The young ones are too busy working and on other platforms like Instagram, Twitter, Facebook, etc to be here. Us old fogies have all the time in the world to wile our time away in this forum.
2002
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Some interesting data on this site:
https://hedgescompany.com/blog/2019/01/new-car-buyer-demographics-2019/
New Plug-In Hybrid Vehicle (PHEV) Buyers by Age Group
Age 24 and younger - less than 1%
Age 25 to 54 - 54%
Age 55 to 64 - 22%
Age 65 and up - 23%
This indicates that about half of PHEV buyers are "working age" the other half are near retirement age or above. However 25 to 54 is a pretty broad age group and income is not included, so I would guess that the PHEV buyers in that age group probably leans more towards the higher end.
Although interestingly the same study shows that people in the 25-54 age group are not quite as dominant in the SUV category
New SUV Buyers by Age Group
Age 24 and younger - less than 1%
Age 25 to 54 - 43%
Age 55 to 64 - 26%
Age 65 and up - 31%
https://hedgescompany.com/blog/2019/01/new-car-buyer-demographics-2019/
New Plug-In Hybrid Vehicle (PHEV) Buyers by Age Group
Age 24 and younger - less than 1%
Age 25 to 54 - 54%
Age 55 to 64 - 22%
Age 65 and up - 23%
This indicates that about half of PHEV buyers are "working age" the other half are near retirement age or above. However 25 to 54 is a pretty broad age group and income is not included, so I would guess that the PHEV buyers in that age group probably leans more towards the higher end.
Although interestingly the same study shows that people in the 25-54 age group are not quite as dominant in the SUV category
New SUV Buyers by Age Group
Age 24 and younger - less than 1%
Age 25 to 54 - 43%
Age 55 to 64 - 26%
Age 65 and up - 31%
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2002
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I remember my grandfather used to say, "You're only as old as you feel. And some days you feel mighty old".
Dan Albrich
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"You have to have money to save money." A statement I've heard over time, and I believe to be true. Some of my family have had a hard time financially and frankly the initial outlay for any brand new car isn't very realistic. I am convinced over a complete car lifecycle the Clarity will be a winner, but there's a higher than 'economy' upfront cost. So yes, I feel lucky and blessed to own such a great car. Now if I can win the lottery, I'll buy each of my family members one.
And as we talk about age of ownership, I do think it matters because you have to have a good enough job to save the money or afford car payments. So would not of been my car at 25, even if it existed then. And definitely would be my car in my 30's had it existed then.
And as we talk about age of ownership, I do think it matters because you have to have a good enough job to save the money or afford car payments. So would not of been my car at 25, even if it existed then. And definitely would be my car in my 30's had it existed then.
Lowell_Greenberg
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The reality is that political forces are aligned to end electric car subsidies even before the phase outs. In my view they should all be rebates- not tax credits. Why, at the federal level, for example, should someone who earns more money have more of a tax benefit?
And to justify the end of subsidies- facts be damned. The environment be damned. And to bolster this- a few studies that purport to show that electric vehicles are worse for the environment if...distorting science to political ends, instead of focusing on shifting the grid to all renewables.
Norway- has successfully shifted at least 50% of new car sales to EVs through subsidies. While the US is not Norway, and our grid is not nearly as clean- it is clear subsidies work. In Norway, EVs are simply more affordable due to subsidies.
If the consumer were asked to pay the true environmental cost of carbon based energy- not a single gas car would be sold. Subsidies would not be needed. But they are not, and they are
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Pushmi-Pullyu
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It's simply amazing how many people don't know that a transmission cooler is absolutely required to prevent your plug-in EV's frammastat from overheating, and lack of a transmission cooler may seriously cripple the functioning of the whoozinator.
4sallypat
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Yah, I know what you mean - my work place is offering early retirement....
Good to hear the Clarity is being purchased by the younger, working crowd instead of us old fogies....
MNSteve
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Take it! If you possibly can. I did, and it's the best decision I've ever made.