I will have to investigate this. With outside ambient temperatures in the 70's I never touch the heating feature. However, I don't know if it's set for using outside air or recirculated air. Would that make a difference? As long as the climate system is set to "off" it shouldn't matter if he air is recirculated or outside.
Clarity EV charge has dropped
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ClarityBill
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If the climate system is set to Off, this would not make a difference. Not just the A/C to off, but the climate system. Mine tends to get into automatic without my noticing, until I see the EV burning up fast.
I wasn't sure if you southern boys use heat when it drops below 70... I try not to use heat until the temperature drops below 50F, but it makes the ride less comfortable.
I have found using recirculated air will give me better EV range, but the windows can fog up.
Not sure I understand what you mean by "mine gets into automatic without my noticing". I am assuming that once you turn it off it just stays off. Is that not the case? Does it turn on by itself?
ClarityBill
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I guess I just play with the buttons too much... Cold when I start in the morning, so I turn it on: Then I think I have it off, and I don't... I'm an old guy.
My outside or recirculate lights seems to be lit, even when the system is off: Recirc or outside seems easy to tell.
Do you have a good way to know that it is off?
Hi Bill
It is 'off' if there is no temperature shown in the top corners of the infoscreen...
ClarityBill
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My display disappears, so I have to push a button to check it. Does yours stay visible?
If you mean the main screen - mine never goes off .. I usually have it on the info energy screen; but the top bar is always on with some info and the temp set for driver and passenger - IF climate control is on - otherwise those two have no numbers.
ClarityBill
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I normally have mine on CarPlay - Map, and it disappears. I want the map so I know when remaining distance matches EV range.
I will have to check if it stays on for the main screen... but that would not help me.
I will have to check if it stays on for the main screen... but that would not help me.
Rajiv Vaidyanathan
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It depends on your recent driving, not current ambient temperature. So, once things warm up and you have been driving in warm weather for a while, the range will creep up. The more you drive around in warm weather, the faster it will calibrate up. I hit a range of 34 this week with temps in the 50s.
I know the range will eventually get into the 50s.
Well, does it depend on temperatures or not? You are saying it does and it doesn’t.
Temperature plays a factor. So does speed, and overall driving habits, assuming a driver is making the same trip.
In my experience, temperatures in the upper 60’s does not have much of an impact on range. I regularly get 45-55 miles of EV range in 60+ degree temps.
ozy has said that range has decreased because traffic has been lighter and driving speed has increased. We haven’t been provided with a number. I’d estimate a speed of ~80mph would coincide with a range of 33-35 miles with temps in the upper 60’s.
Rajiv Vaidyanathan
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Ugh. You are correct. Very poor wording on my part. It all sounded so clear in my head.
It *DOES* depend on ambient temperature, but the effect is not instantaneous. It depends on how much driving you do within the ambient temperature. So, once temps get into the 60s, your EV range will start creeping up and will hit the 50s after some regular and prudent driving under those conditions. But, of course, ambient temps are not the only factor that affect the EV range.
Sorry for the lack of clarity in my original post.
KentuckyKen
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FQIW, using the old Mark 1 eyeball for observation, a little Kentucky windage, some Hillbilly math and Redneck ciphering per Jethro, and some country boy “smarts”, I will go out on a limb and say that it appears to me that the range estimates don’t go back farther than 3 drive cycles. Although the algorithm may or may not figure in some milage along with or instead of the number cycles, it usually stabilizes with temps in just a couple of cycles for me. Anybody else tracking this?
I take note of estimated EV range after each charge, primarily for entertainment purposes. To see it it will be met or exceeded.
You may be on to something with the 3 drive cycle theory. I have a theory that it is a useless data point and would still be useless regardless of the length of time it collects data.
It is one of the stupid features of the car.
I have to ask. What is FQIW?
KentuckyKen
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I have no idea either. It was supposed to be FWIW, but my thumbs were not well coordinated and evidently neither were my eyes nor either hemisphere of my brain. It will definitely take next gen AI to correct all my spelling errors.
Because the Clarity's Trip Computer can display information for the three previous drives, it would make sense that the guess-o-meter would use that data to predict the next drive's range (with influence from temperature data).
My gen-1 Honda Insights presented a lifetime gas-mileage readout along with the odometer. It was a cruel taskmaster as I worked hard every summer to build up that number only to suffer disappointment every winter as the lower temperatures erased those gains. When we got the 2nd-gen Insight for my wife, its normal 42 mpg gas so much less than my Insights that it didn't bother me that Honda had deleted the lifetime gas mileage readout.
However, I wish the Clarity had separate cumulative readouts for the gas distance and mileage and electrical distance and mileage. I continue to believe Honda would make money selling an optional app that displays a screen with all the info nerds like me want. I'd pay $300 in an instant or even $500 when my wife wasn't paying attention.
Did you ever compare the mileage on the readout to actual fuel consumption? On the few, gas only, trips in the car the computer consistently shows ~40mpg. Actual has been ~36mpg.
It’s a nice car, but for all the technology and efficiency claims, the Clarity and your 2nd Gen Insight get no better fuel economy than the 2005 dirty diesel Jetta that I used to drive. 36-42mpg.
Just think what great fuel mileage the Clarity Diesel Plug-In Hybrid would get! The MPG readout is about 2 MPG optimistic on our Clarity, but we have seen 44 mpg after running out of EV power on our two long trips. Although I'm unimpressed by our Insight II getting 42 mpg, I'm very impressed when our 2-ton Clarity can pull that off.
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I’m concerned. Mine dropped two months ago from a consistent 48 miles per charge to consistent 41 miles per charge. I’m in Florida, so weather is probably not the issue. I’m driving shorter distances, and always charging with 240V charger now. Should I be concerned with a 15% drop in available battery?
joethebeekeeper
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Do you live in a city that had a significant decline in traffic due to COVID? Most highways saw a significant increase in speed.