Another Tesla Fatality with Fire

[Martin Williams]

A mathematical fact doesn't need a majority.

If ICE cars really were as likely to burst into flame as battery ones, we should be seeing FAR more fatal accidents from fire than we are. Whether you or people with your mindset (if there are any) believe it is irrelevant. The fact is unassailable.

 

[DonDeeHippy]

There are about 250 million ICE vehicles running about in the USA. There are about a thousandth of this number of battery cars.

So we should be seeing about a thousand ICE deaths due to fires after crashes for every single battery fire by deaths (Assuming ICEs are as dangerous as battery cars)

In fact, there are far, far fewer than that.

Ergo, ICE vehicles are far less likely to go on fire than battery cars.

Q.E.D.

That would make only 250.000 electric cars combined in USA, didn't they sell 200,000 new ones just last year ?
How many Fire related deaths where their last year and year before ? Wouldn't that bring the Stats to be about equal, its a shame 2 happened so close together, and if u brought the scope down to 10 days it would look really bad.

 

[Martin Williams]

By battery cars I mean cars which run entirely on batteries, rather than ones which are also capable of running on petrol. You can't include dual fuel cars in a fair comparison.

In fact, I am not entirely convinced that battery cars really are more dangerous than ICE ones - the sample size is too small and one can expect clusters of accidents in random accidents - but I can see possible reasons why in severe crashes the probability of a major fire might be higher than in a petrol car.

But the claim that petrol cars are as prone to burn as battery cars is easy to disprove from the data.

 

[The Duke]

I suspect hydrogen will win on safety, but even that remains to be seen. Its convenience will probably mean it wins out even if it's less safe though.

I am guessing H2 has almost no chance in the real world except long haul trucking and trains. H2 may be the last gasp to use fossil fuels, under the guise of clean emissions. Most H2 is made from natural gas. When made by electrolysis (the only non polluting way) the cost is prohibitive even with 100% solar source compared to BEV use. Dollars usually trump safety if the race is close at all and in this case it's very close because H2 vehicles have batteries too.

 

[The Duke]

But the claim that petrol cars are as prone to burn as battery cars is easy to disprove from the data.

Cool, please post the deaths by fire per mile driven by BEV cars vs ICE cars. I tried to find meaningful verifiable facts and found it difficult.
Be sure to exclude Hybrids and plug ins as they represent both and so must be twice as likely to burn. (joke)

 

[David Green]

Cool, please post the deaths by fire per mile driven by BEV cars vs ICE cars. I tried to find meaningful verifiable facts and found it difficult.
Be sure to exclude Hybrids and plug ins as they represent both and so must be twice as likely to burn. (joke)

Tesla has the worst record of the BEV's for what its worth, something of 18 fires in 250K cars... Tesla, dose not release the body count, but I know A6 Audi has more on the road the Model S and no fatalities. Also BMW 535XI 0 fatalities