45kW Max charging at EA for an Ioniq 5?

[OneEV]

I went to two different chargers (actually three. The third was broken. )
and with a 50F temp my ioniq 5 SE got 45k max charging. I was at 20% state
of charge at the first and 50% state of charge at the second.
The chargers were 150K and no one else was plugged in besides me.
?? Is this normal

Not the Car.
Typical Issue with older EA Stations . The new EA Station , you'll see "Hyper 350" work great. Also , go to any Tesla MagicDock and plug in and you'll immediately see well over 120kW (at least on my ID 4 ) . Just by doing that, same temps , same 20% SOC and you'll quickly understand it's a Electrify America issue.

 

[Glenn Gore]

Not the Car.
Typical Issue with older EA Stations . The new EA Station , you'll see "Hyper 350" work great. Also , go to any Tesla MagicDock and plug in and you'll immediately see well over 120kW (at least on my ID 4 ) . Just by doing that, same temps , same 20% SOC and you'll quickly understand it's a Electrify America issue.
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Then almost every one of EA’s sites must be considered “old”, or at least every single one I have ever been to. There are only 2 or 3 in the entire state of Oklahoma I think, all located on an Interstate, none on a US or State highway.

I have never been to a Magic Dock Supercharger, there are none in Oklahoma and only a handful across the country. Not much of an option, really. The switch to NACS will have no effect in this part of the country. We have our own problems with the Francis Electric charging network that has lots of locations but is a complete joke with all the same problems that EA has.


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[OneEV]

Are you preheating your battery on way to Charger?

without complete details , which stations you use , are yuou parking outside at night? are you trying to charge cold battery etc.. hard to say. But the Ioniq 5s have no issue chargering well above 100kW to 200kW range (somtimes much higher in perfect conditions with ease

Suprised OKlahoma has this many Electrify america Stations.








Any chance you live near the Canoo ev plant ?

 

[Glenn Gore]

Are you preheating your battery on way to Charger?

without complete details , which stations you use , are yuou parking outside at night? are you trying to charge cold battery etc.. hard to say. But the Ioniq 5s have no issue chargering well above 100kW to 200kW range (somtimes much higher in perfect conditions with ease

Suprised OKlahoma has this many Electrify america Stations.


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Any chance you live near the Canoo ev plant ?

The Canoo plant is in Oklahoma City, I live in northwest Oklahoma, 70 miles north of the EA sites on I-40. There are no other EA sites for almost 200 miles to the north along I-70. It looks like there are a lot of EA sites in Oklahoma but they are only located along Interstates, none on US or State highways, and there is a 200+ mile gap from Oklahoma City east to Clarksville, Arkansas, more than most EV’s can handle.

I have a 2022 long-range, RWD Ioniq 5, it does not have battery preconditioning. But just driving that 70 miles down to the EA site should warm up the battery a bit. Regardless, the EA site are just not functional most of the time. I have seen an ABB tech at the Weatherford site a dozen times, they just cannot keep those 6 units working at all. Most of the time 4 are out of order and the other two are borked to 50 kw. It makes no difference whether it is winter or summer either.

EA is not the only provider to be suffering with most of their units not working properly. Francis Electric has dozens of sites across the state, VW settlement funded, and the state required they be constructed along US and State highways so that people everywhere in the state could have access to a DCFC. Not just on the Interstates, and I applaud the state for doing that. But most of the Francis units don’t work either and a lot of them have been dead well over a year.


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[OneEV]

Yeah I live in the EV charging desert of Minnesota so I know the feeling, it was pretty frustrating when your last resort is a 50kW and they charge $5 connection fee AND 30 cents MINUTE (not by how much "fuel" you take but by the minute lol..ofh and then after your done B&Ming you plug in ..it didnt work anyways . That was my Chevy Bolt days.

Much better here lately , I know have a Tesla MagicDock 20 miles away on the way to the Airport where I take a lot of passengers 2 EA stations and an EVgo within 12 miles of the Airport .

My ID 4 does not have battery preheating either and I still can pull upto 185kW 25 degree day.. 80% battery and pulling aroud 80kW . This is as long as I drive hwy speeds which is warming the battery.

Do you have car scanner app to check bateyr temp and for bad cells? other tan the normal winter range drop is your range normal?



Again, I would get out on the hwy and run at least 75 miles an hour , even yo yo it a bit to really warm the battery up then charge and see if any difference , if not then yes it will be EA good luck !

 

[Glenn Gore]

I have ordered one of the OBD dongles, have not received it yet. Outside of the normal 40-50% range reduction of wintertime, everything is normal as it has been since I have owned the car. I love it and would not trade it except for the lack of battery pre-conditioning. That should be included with every EV, no question.

To get to that EA DCFC I do run at highway speeds, 65-70, so the battery should be wam on its own. I just think the problem has more to do with the problems EA has had keeping this site up and running. When it first opened a couple years ago I could get over 200 kw from a Hyper dispenser easily, but since then, EA just has not been able to provide anything close to that. Looking at the PlugShare comments for the site, no one else seems to be able to get more than 50 kw out of it either. Those junk ABB units just are not reliable, and the same can be said for similar units Francis uses at their sites.

There are no Magic Dock-equipped Superchargers in Oklahoma, and I really don't expect any. Tesla has not announced any plans to expand the number of charging sites in the middle of the country, so what we have now is all there will be for the foreseeable future. Only on Interstates and only on the east-west routes. Try to drive north-south out here and there is no way, the gaps between the Interstates are just too big for any current EV to make it from Interstate to Interstate.

 

[Tren]

Do you have car scanner app to check battery temp and for bad cells?

I think you could increase cell voltage resolution to 3-4 fractional digits (double tap on screen > text size and color > numeric value format 0.####)