All EV family. Comparing Mini to others (Tesla)

Discussion in 'Cooper SE' started by Quiet Mini, Sep 7, 2023.

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  1. revorg

    revorg Well-Known Member

    It's baffling. I live in a "progressive" area, and there are countless cars-without-faces (Tesla), other electrics, and lots of Mini's. Just not electric Mini's. I've only seen two in the wild (might have been just one, the second encounter was brief).
     
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  3. teslarati97

    teslarati97 Well-Known Member

    Honestly vehicles aren't competing on the same class, but on the value for money. I'd still take a MINI SE over a base Porsche 718 Cayman for daily urban driving 10 out of 10 times.
     
  4. Quiet Mini

    Quiet Mini Well-Known Member

    Petrol Minis have been produced for many more years than electrics. Naturally you will notice more. Personally I see a lot more Countryman vs 2 doors as well. A lot of people need/want larger vehicles.

    It seems like my local dealer never had stock of SEs, they were all pre sold, before the tax rebates went away. Now they seem to be in stock more. In true dollars after rebates and referrals, a Model 3 can be had for similar money as an SE. 4 doors and 2.5 times the range may have lured some buyers.

    My guess is that the EV Countryman is going to be a huge seller.
     
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  5. Puppethead

    Puppethead Well-Known Member

    Unless the new model is just too big (even the styling seems lacking). Not for me, but maybe it will appeal to American taste.
     
  6. Rogwp

    Rogwp Active Member Subscriber

    Also on the West Coast (or is that wet coast?). :)
     
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  8. insightman

    insightman Well-Known Member Subscriber

    The price will have some effect on the sales. Every new SE sold back when they were cheap, but now they're sitting on dealer lots, looking for well-heeled buyers.
     
  9. MrSnrub

    MrSnrub Well-Known Member

    Good afternoon IMG_2807.jpeg
     
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  10. nowkent

    nowkent New Member

    It definetly requires some patience and a taste for adventure, but my wife and I have been roadtripping the Mini SE, and having a blast.

     
  11. MrSnrub

    MrSnrub Well-Known Member

    Hybrids are the worst of both worlds
     
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  13. teslarati97

    teslarati97 Well-Known Member

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    Hybrids are the worst of both worlds but getting up to $12,000 from Roulez vert & iZEV rebates say otherwise. Free $$$$!
     
  14. MrSnrub

    MrSnrub Well-Known Member

    If you want to wait ages at Toyota or get a Tesla tomorrow
     
  15. insightman

    insightman Well-Known Member Subscriber

    The impending Highland update is probably making it tough to move those Model 3s and Ys. Expect even bigger discounts soon.
     
  16. SameGuy

    SameGuy Well-Known Member Subscriber

    YUL
    Did they try to headhunt you? My neighbour (the MB Service Foreman) has been hunted three times since the plans were originally revealed a couple of years ago.
     
  17. MrSnrub

    MrSnrub Well-Known Member

    Yes they have but the offer wasn’t spectacular.
     
  18. SameGuy

    SameGuy Well-Known Member Subscriber

    YUL
    Yeah that's what he said. That, and hearing the horror stories of Tesla using office and support and other unskilled workers without trade cards to do maintenance and repairs and rush jobs out the door were turn-offs.
     
  19. MrSnrub

    MrSnrub Well-Known Member

    If they want me I want low 6 figure pay. Simple as that.
     
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  20. teslarati97

    teslarati97 Well-Known Member

    Okay I'll in a good word for you at Lucid!

    Actually I just found out that Cory Steuben from Munro is now the Assistant Chief Engineer (midsize division) for Lucid.
     
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  21. insightman

    insightman Well-Known Member Subscriber

    The highlight of my attendance at the recent Munro Open House was speaking with Mr. Steuben about Munro's consultation with BMW when they were developing their first MINI Cooper. I hope he does well at Lucid (and hope Lucid's Saudi buddies keep the company going).
     
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  22. Pennyworth

    Pennyworth Member

    Mini's enticement is Mini. People purchase Mini Cooper 2-Doors, whether ICE or BEV, for the Mini appeal. To own a Mini has traditionally required some sacrifice, ie; size, stowage space, no spare tire, and now the SE range. We have owned a Clubman, 2-door hardtop S, and now a 2-door SE. We keep an ICE car because we love long roadtrips where sometimes the destination is the high point and sometimes the journey is the high point, but most drives are over 12 hours in one day. Realistically, walking or riding bicycles are your options if you think you want to do good for the planet. BEVs still use coal, fossil fuels, or nuclear energy to produce electricity and we still have not solved what to do with all these batteries when they reach end of life. Buy a Mini SE for the Mini, not the range.
     
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  23. SameGuy

    SameGuy Well-Known Member Subscriber

    YUL
    Not arguing your last point – I agree that EVs are not the answer – but just reiterating that some places offer electricity from clean sources. Up here, our grid is supplied from 99.7% non-fossil sources.
     
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