navguy12
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Cheers.
I installed the BM2 device within the first month of ownership.
I also have a small 12v jumper pack in the center console.
Newbie here, wife getting her 2021 Kona (preferred) six months earlier than expected.
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I installed the BM2 device within the first month of ownership.
I also have a small 12v jumper pack in the center console.
navguy12
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Success…after having to search out and find the brake regen settings.
When we went for a drive today, the regen was still defaulting to “1”.
Based on the advice given here, we went into the settings, searching for and finding the options for the regen within the specific area of the settings for each drive mode.
The car is now defaulting to regen level “3”.
When we went for a drive today, the regen was still defaulting to “1”.
Based on the advice given here, we went into the settings, searching for and finding the options for the regen within the specific area of the settings for each drive mode.
The car is now defaulting to regen level “3”.
BaylorBob
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I meant to explain this more for navguy12 but I didn't have time before. Once you tap the left paddle into Level 3 Regen, it should remain there forever. If it slips out or changes to level 2, just tap it back again and it will go back to level 3. I RARELY use my Footbrake. I drive in Eco all the time. When I see a car ahead of me stopping or a red light or stop sign ahead of me I take my foot off the accelerator and the car slows down. As I get closer to the car in front of me or the stop sign or signal, if the car has not slowed to a crawl I will pull on the left paddle until the car stops. If there is no car behind me or in front of me and I am approaching a Red Lite or Stop sign I may take my foot off the accelerator 1/2 block before the Signal or Stop sign and just let it coast to a stop. After doing this about 5 or 6 times you get a feel for how long it will take to stop and the distance at which you should remove your foot from the accelerator. It may do it in 100 feet, 50 feet, or 25 feet depending on your car and the speed you are going before you take your foot off the accelerator. Hieronymous said, "the paddles are just an optional-use accessory which provides no benefit above and beyond traditional driving techniques". I have no idea what he means. They do 4 things for me. 1. Stop my car. 2. Add miles to my Battery. 3. Save my Brake Pads. 4. Save me from having to step on the Brake pedal. I would define these as benefits, at least to me.
navguy12
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All I can tell you is that regardless of what we did with the left paddle, her car defaulted to level “1” until we dug into the settings as described earlier.
I have had this happen, one of those software gremlins...but it does seem to be very intermittent. Again not having any updates at the dealer.
It's like the car prefers a little additional attention every once in a while from the driver.
Anyway it is a good reminder of how to operate this function, if it hasn't been done for some time.
Hyundai actually released some You Tube videos that can be very helpful, like this one explaining how to do that @ ~ 1:25
slightly different with the 10" screen, but it is under "setup/vehicle" settings found by swiping twice to the left (if you have the original Nav software)
Have a good chuckle after watching as it says " Got those drive modes set to your liking? They will stay that way until you are ready to change them again"
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hieronymous
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I’ll see you, and raise you one, @BaylorBob.
I do not use the paddle, I use the brake pedal to stop the car, traditionally what it is designed to do. It does 5 things for me. 1. Stop my car. 2. Add miles to my battery. 3. Save my brake pads. 4. Confirm that the car brakes are working. 5. Gives instant panic braking in an emergency. I would define these as benefits, at least to me.
The regen paddle is a (optional) speed moderating device, which in safe conditions, can bring the car to a halt, but it is NOT a brake. You cannot increase/decrease paddle effect with varying pressure as you can with the brake pedal, and for unexpected panic braking you immediately have to move your foot to start pressing hard on the brake pedal. Until you stop..
Before then my Kona is stopped already, 100 feet further back..
Your choice, @BaylorBob..
I’m with Hieronymous on this one. Paddles are fun; brake pedal is safer. No other significant differences.
Only when the steering wheel is straight, they can be a pain to find when cornering, and become a distraction as well
BaylorBob
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You said, "the regen paddle can bring the car to a halt, but it is not a brake". I don't care what you call it. It Stops my Car. So as far as I am concerned ITS A BRAKE. Is a woman wearing underwear or panties? Different name, same function. You said "You cannot increase/decrease paddle effect with varying pressure as you can with the brake pedal." Maybe your car can't, but mine can and does!
hieronymous
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Duh...
Book of Jeremiah 5:21...
Book of Jeremiah 5:21...
John Lumsden
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Only when the steering wheel is straight, they can be a pain to find when cornering, and become a distraction as well
I frequently drive quite quickly over a twisty mountain pass, with regeneration set at three. I like that I can use the left paddle quickly to slow the car more when needed on some bends, compared with shifting my foot to the brake pedal. Electriceddy is correct that on tight corners you can’t operate the paddles, but on those I’m already going slowly.
As far as bringing the car to a full stop, they certainly do, as I know from in-town driving. The paddles are not progressive, and sometimes you have to release the paddle to get closer to whatever is in front, then apply again. It becomes second nature. When stopped with the paddle, the car stays stopped without needing to keep a foot on the brake pedal.
It is a matter of personal preference. I wouldn’t wish to give up the paddles, but can see why others like using the footbrake primarily.
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navguy12
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Yesterday, I had to use my wife’s Kona to do a regular commute because of a cargo requirement that exceeded the capacity of my TM3.
This was my first solo, long distance trip in this car.
The (typical) trip is (westbound) from the Trenton ON area to Guelph ON via HWY 401, thence to Burlington ON and back to Guelph ON (to remain overnight before returning to home base).
When departing home, I selected “ECO” mode for giggles to see how the three hour commute to Guelph would go.
The GOM went from 435 km to 495 km with a 100% SOC.
The total drive was very comfortable, quiet and the weather conditions (clear roads, 22C) were perfect.
My cruise speed on the major portion of this trip was 110 kph.
When I plugged in at Guelph at the end of the day (late last night), here is what the trip odometer said:
For WAG mental math purposes, I rounded up the initial GOM reading to assume 500 km equated to the 100% SOC I had at departure.
Thus, at the end of the 332.5 km multiple stop trip to Guelph last night, I still had 25% SOC.
And 139 Wh/km.
Very impressed…and this is coming from a TM3 perspective.
This was my first solo, long distance trip in this car.
The (typical) trip is (westbound) from the Trenton ON area to Guelph ON via HWY 401, thence to Burlington ON and back to Guelph ON (to remain overnight before returning to home base).
When departing home, I selected “ECO” mode for giggles to see how the three hour commute to Guelph would go.
The GOM went from 435 km to 495 km with a 100% SOC.
The total drive was very comfortable, quiet and the weather conditions (clear roads, 22C) were perfect.
My cruise speed on the major portion of this trip was 110 kph.
When I plugged in at Guelph at the end of the day (late last night), here is what the trip odometer said:
For WAG mental math purposes, I rounded up the initial GOM reading to assume 500 km equated to the 100% SOC I had at departure.
Thus, at the end of the 332.5 km multiple stop trip to Guelph last night, I still had 25% SOC.
And 139 Wh/km.
Very impressed…and this is coming from a TM3 perspective.
Pretty good for highway speeds, the weather conditions etc were definite contributing factors. I usually try to get as close to 125 w/hr per km (seems to be my Kona EV summer benchmark) at that point 500kms range and above is not an issue.
Bruce M.
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Interesting. Since I moved from San Francisco to Hilo, Hawaii, my range has continued to markedly improve. My GOM regularly shows me getting over 320 miles on a full charge -- the other day it was 332 -- compared to about 285-290 in SF. Part of it, I'm sure, is lack of highway driving as there are very few roads here where you can go over 55, and I don't travel those a lot. And the car really seems to like the 6.5 mile downhill drive from my house in the hills to the places I go for shopping, errands, etc. -- a typical round trip ends up showing about 5.5 mi/kwh. Ambient temperatures are generally warmer, but it rarely got cold enough in SF to have a meaningful impact on range.
It just gets better and better each year.Pretty good for highway speeds, the weather conditions etc were definite contributing factors. I usually try to get as close to 125 w/hr per km (seems to be my Kona EV summer benchmark) at that point 500kms range and above is not an issue.
Temperature 17 C, crosswind gusts ~30 kph, dry roads, average hwy speed ~95 kph, consumption 110 Wh/km, tire psi 42 cold - 45 hot, trip distance ~100km, toes - full of sand.
Can hardly wait (and its been a long one) for those 20 degree plus temps to kick in
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John Lumsden
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Nice drive out from NanaimoIt just gets better and better each year.
Temperature 17 C, crosswind gusts ~30 kph, dry roads, average hwy speed ~95 kph, consumption 110 Wh/km, tire psi 42 cold - 45 hot, trip distance ~100km, toes - full of sand.
Can hardly wait (and its been a long one) for those 20 degree plus temps to kick in
Is that Texada Island on the horizon?
Both Lasqueti and Texada can be seen from here, nice spot at low tide. It was a bit blustery and cool on this day, I counted 14 people total while walking the 4 kmNice drive out from Nanaimo
things will change soon when students and tourists abound.Perfect location for charging equipment.