Turn Off VESS (Virtual Engine Sound System)

electriceddy said:
I contemplated the momentary contact switch/ 200 ohm resistor to ground (pins 7 and 12) approach and still might do it, but the easiest way I can see would be to splice on to existing wiring on the 24 pin connector attached to the button unit. This would of course involve removing a portion of the lower dash to access .
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In Europe, they have two switches where we have one, the bottom one being the VESS switch... it would be nice if we could just order, and (somehow) install, that double switch! (I realize that it probably would be the whole panel of switches one would have to order and that probably ordering that or the double switch is wishful thinking!... Hyundai's warranty could/may also be jeopardized...)
 

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It would have to be a whole new board behind the panel, as the US version
apparently doesn't even have a blank spot.

If VESS is a dedicated active-low output, I still don't get why there's a 200
ohm resistor in there. Is the VESS box still doing a voltage-divider comparison,
like to protect against a simply shorted input? [I suppose I could test this if
I cared enough to plug the VESS back in at all...]

_H*
 
hobbit said:
It would have to be a whole new board behind the panel, as the US version
apparently doesn't even have a blank spot.

If VESS is a dedicated active-low output, I still don't get why there's a 200
ohm resistor in there. Is the VESS box still doing a voltage-divider comparison,
like to protect against a simply shorted input? [I suppose I could test this if
I cared enough to plug the VESS back in at all...]

_H*
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How easy was it to remove the lower dash cover to gain access to the switch board?
 
The lower dash wasn't too hard, as I remember: the side panel
[that gets hidden when the door is closed] has to come off first.
Couple of screws, but most of it is the little claw-clips. If they're
"virgin", the process is a little more difficult ... work slowly, use a
flashlight to find the next one along, non-marring pry tools, etc.

The switch panel screws in from the back.

_H*
 
hobbit said:
I still don't get why there's a 200 ohm resistor in there... , _H*
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Especially a puzzle that the other panel controls all use the same or a similar design, yet only one makes obvious selections based on resistance. I would hope that changing the value on the (momentary) VESS disable would change the sound to a V8 but I suspect there may be more mundane purposes such as fault detection.

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I don't own a KONA Electric yet but will be purchasing one after I get my solar installed. Would anyone know if it possible to simply buy another lane assist/auto button and replace the HUD button with it. Then use one of the buttons for the HUD and the other Button for VESS? It looks like it could work since the button slots are the same size. Not sure how much the replacement button costs but it would look like it was from the factory if it possible.

You would of course have to paint match and then get stencils to re-paint the HUD and VESS Logo's.. I would buy a set if someone made them :), well assuming it worked.
 
KonaGO-1234 said:
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I don't own a KONA Electric yet but will be purchasing one after I get my solar installed. Would anyone know if it possible to simply buy another lane assist/auto button and replace the HUD button with it. Then use one of the buttons for the HUD and the other Button for VESS? It looks like it could work since the button slots are the same size. Not sure how much the replacement button costs but it would look like it was from the factory if it possible.

You would of course have to paint match and then get stencils to re-paint the HUD and VESS Logo's.. I would buy a set if someone made them :), well assuming it worked.
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ericy is looking into it:
https://insideevsforum.com/communit...a-switch-to-turn-vss-off-on.9034/#post-102315
but the easiest, cheapest and proven working method is here (for a N.A. car):
https://insideevsforum.com/communit...ifications-and-tweaks.5009/page-8#post-105992
hwitten has eased the procedure by used tap connectors instead of soldering
https://insideevsforum.com/communit...fications-and-tweaks.5009/page-10#post-106489
;)
 
hobbit said:
The lower dash wasn't too hard, as I remember: the side panel
[that gets hidden when the door is closed] has to come off first.
Couple of screws, but most of it is the little claw-clips. If they're
"virgin", the process is a little more difficult ... work slowly, use a
flashlight to find the next one along, non-marring pry tools, etc.

The switch panel screws in from the back.

_H*
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In case anyone is still interested, here are two images of the side panel (of a right hand drive Kona). You need to pry starting from a location that has a small rectangular cut out then work your way around it. The location of the clips are shown in the other image.
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I just got the car less than 12 hours ago and have done a preliminary survey of the fuse panel area.

Have I correctly identified the connector I will be working with:

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Thanks.
 
Further to my last (sorry no photo at this time) but there appears to be no black wire in slot 12 nor a green wire in slot seven.

Hypothesis: if the VESS switch is no longer available in jurisdictions outside North America for 2021, perhaps there is no method to turn the thing off (short of an actual kill switch).

Is there a (safe) place online one can access the wiring diagrams for a 2021 Kona EV? Thanks.
 
navguy12 said:
Further to my last (sorry no photo at this time) but there appears to be no black wire in slot 12 nor a green wire in slot seven.

Hypothesis: if the VESS switch is no longer available in jurisdictions outside North America for 2021, perhaps there is no method to turn the thing off (short of an actual kill switch).

Is there a (safe) place online one can access the wiring diagrams for a 2021 Kona EV? Thanks.
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If I may suggest just pulling the connector off the vess speaker its the simplest solution.Run it for a little while and if makes you uncomfortable having it always off just plug it back in. I suspect you will be happy leaving it off. Initially I thought it was cool, then after running with it off for the last 6 months it got plugged back in while it was serviced recently and honestly it feels like fingers on chalk board to me now and it was promptly unplugged again.
 
apu said:
If I may suggest just pulling the connector off the vess speaker its the simplest solution.Run it for a little while and if makes you uncomfortable having it always off just plug it back in. I suspect you will be happy leaving it off. Initially I thought it was cool, then after running with it off for the last 6 months it got plugged back in while it was serviced recently and honestly it feels like fingers on chalk board to me now and it was promptly unplugged again.
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It's up to my wife, its her car.

If she says something, I'll unplug it.

As a passenger, I concur with the fingernails on chalkboard description as my wife does not use the radio...
 
navguy12 said:
Have I correctly identified the connector I will be working with...
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No. It's directly behind the switch panel, on the so-called 'crash pad'. Since you've got the parts you may as well install them.
navguy12 said:
Is there a (safe) place online one can access the wiring diagrams for a 2021 Kona EV?
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Yes, but noting all the pertinent info available for this mod has already been provided.
https://www.hyundaitechinfo.com/
navguy12 said:
Hypothesis: if the VESS switch is no longer available in jurisdictions outside North America for 2021, perhaps there is no method to turn the thing off (short of an actual kill switch).
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I think that is highly unlikely. The mod we've described has had over a year of discussion, as have model year changes. It will work.
 
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KiwiME said:
No. It's directly behind the switch panel, on the so-called 'crash pad'. Since you've got the parts you may as well install them.

Yes, but noting all the pertinent info available for this mod has already been provided.
https://www.hyundaitechinfo.com/
I think that is highly unlikely. The mod we've described has had over a year of discussion, as have model year changes. It will work.
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Behind the panel, on the crash pad. ..I'll go take a look...
 
KiwiME said:
No. It's directly behind the switch panel, on the so-called 'crash pad'. Since you've got the parts you may as well install them.

Yes, but noting all the pertinent info available for this mod has already been provided.
https://www.hyundaitechinfo.com/
I think that is highly unlikely. The mod we've described has had over a year of discussion, as have model year changes. It will work.
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Sorry I sound like a 2x4, but on the back side of the yellow-colored fuse panel/connector panel I see this one connector, bottm edge, firewall side, inboard bottom corner.

Is the correct connector plugged into the firewall side of the yellow-colored fuse panel/connector panel?
 
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