Will my SE still quality for tax credit

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gosjsgdi said:
In other forums (and on comments to news articles on the main page, people are calling for InsideEVs to put together a detailed analysis of the legislation…as if this website really wants to be on the hook for providing the advice that may/may not result in anyone getting $7500 worth of tax credits/rebates.
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That's like asking Motorport Network (InsideEVs parent) for a step by step detailed guide on wiring a 40A Level 2 EVSE.
 
AndysComputer said:
Virtually no car will meet the materials requirements as essentially they would need to come from the USA, Australia or Chile for the most part and currently they don’t.

As I’ve told a friend who is considering a Mini Electric because of the tax credit, order one now or lose out! The only thing that is holding him back is the lack of the $30k base model…
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Tell your friend just ordered bc $34500 is cheapest EV car and next year is nothing close to the price and this year he gets $7500 if he qualifies. Cobalt as we know is use for batteries is own by China in Congo which is the biggest producer in a world all this electric cars are going 25% in price and a smaller company’s with luxury brands going to bankrupt.
 
AndysComputer said:
Virtually no car will meet the materials requirements as essentially they would need to come from the USA, Australia or Chile for the most part and currently they don’t.

As I’ve told a friend who is considering a Mini Electric because of the tax credit, order one now or lose out! The only thing that is holding him back is the lack of the $30k base model…
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Tell him to buy one in one day on CARVANA use one for $ 40000 could be low milage 2000 miles
 
Not that it matters, because neither Chinese or British EVs will qualify next year, but I swear I have read in at least two places that the Chinese EVs are being made for the Chinese market for now, and the Mini EV will still be made in Oxford next year. Is there any definitive info anyone has to clarify this?
 
gosjsgdi said:
In other forums (and on comments to news articles on the main page, people are calling for InsideEVs to put together a detailed analysis of the legislation…as if this website really wants to be on the hook for providing the advice that may/may not result in anyone getting $7500 worth of tax credits/rebates.
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I would say journalists covering a particular field have an ethical obligation to provide as accurate and detailed information as possible. I for one would be terribly embarrassed if a bunch of "internet randos" did my job better than I did.
 
Percivel said:
Not that it matters, because neither Chinese or British EVs will qualify next year, but I swear I have read in at least two places that the Chinese EVs are being made for the Chinese market for now, and the Mini EV will still be made in Oxford next year. Is there any definitive info anyone has to clarify this?
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The Oxford plant will stop building EVs when (before) the built-in-China car is released. Precisely when, though, is unclear.
 
CuriousGeorge said:
I would say journalists covering a particular field have an ethical obligation to provide as accurate and detailed information as possible. I for one would be terribly embarrassed if a bunch of "internet randos" did my job better than I did.
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You’re not wrong…but when $7500 of tax impacts are at stake for me, I’m certainly not going to lean on the ‘ol “I read it on the interwebz, therefore it must be true” approach.
 
Percivel said:
Not that it matters, because neither Chinese or British EVs will qualify next year, but I swear I have read in at least two places that the Chinese EVs are being made for the Chinese market for now, and the Mini EV will still be made in Oxford next year. Is there any definitive info anyone has to clarify this?
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No dealers in USA are want to sell any EVs just Teslas are selling own cars without dealers involvement beating by value any manufacture Q2. 2022 258;580 units a Mini SE with 34000 world wide in 2021 no data for 2022
CuriousGeorge said:
I would say journalists covering a particular field have an ethical obligation to provide as accurate and detailed information as possible. I for one would be terribly embarrassed if a bunch of "internet randos" did my job better than I did.
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is no ethics in this world in journalism they try to keep a job to live and survive to put food on a table in 99%
 
gosjsgdi said:
You’re not wrong…but when $7500 of tax impacts are at stake for me, I’m certainly not going to lean on the ‘ol “I read it on the interwebz, therefore it must be true” approach.
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To be clear, I was referring to the logical expectation that insideevs provide accurate, detailed information. It may not be the equivalent of, say, the "failing" NYTs, but IMO the same journalistic obligations apply.

IOW, either do your job to the best of your abilities (resources), or find something else to do with your time.
 
CuriousGeorge said:
To be clear, I was referring to the logical expectation that insideevs provide accurate, detailed information. It may not be the equivalent of, say, the "failing" NYTs, but IMO the same journalistic obligations apply.

IOW, either do your job to the best of your abilities (resources), or find something else to do with your time.
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I don’t disagree. Yet, even strict adherence to the ethic of doing one’s job to the best one’s abilities or resources doesn’t necessarily apply when disciplines collide. I wouldn’t lean on an automotive journalist to take on the task of statutory construction and interpretation and to offer infallibly correct opinions on something as arcane and Byzantine as the US internal revenue code.
 
gosjsgdi said:
I don’t disagree. Yet, even strict adherence to the ethic of doing one’s job to the best one’s abilities or resources doesn’t necessarily apply when disciplines collide. I wouldn’t lean on an automotive journalist to take on the task of statutory construction and interpretation and to offer infallibly correct opinions on something as arcane and Byzantine as the US internal revenue code.
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No one said that they needed to be infallible - just that they shouldn't dodge the question out of convenience.
 
Rexsio said:
No dealers in USA are want to sell any EVs just Teslas are selling own cars without dealers involvement
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Every description I read about the revised $7,500 tax credit says the dealer arranges for the credit at the time of the sale. Is that a purposeful snub of Tesla?
 
CuriousGeorge said:
Given uncertainty as to what constitutes a "written binding contract", even ordering now may not be a solution.

As an example: my MA had me sign a printout of my order, but all I have paid is the $250 reservation fee. Do I want to gamble $7500 on some IRS auditor's interpretation of whether that qualifies or not? That seems the only option at present.

At the risk of drifting further off-topic for this SE-specific forum, here is Fisker's answer to the conundrum.

https://fiskerati.com/fisker/fisker-implements-plan-for-7500-ev-tax-credit/
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Rivian is now making the same offer of a binding contract to those who have pre-ordered.

It would be great if MINI would do the same, but I don't expect that will happen, as obviously domestic EV-only startups have a lot more skin in the game than a company that mostly sells ICE vehicles worldwide.

Looks like my plan B will have to be to order a Bolt then invest in handling upgrades...
 
SameGuy said:
So it’s a protectionist bill, but not really a climate-protectionist bill. Got it.
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US congress likes to pass mega bills because of partisanship and constant bill blocking by the minority party. Canada has to write the bill in English and French so the mega bill would be double the length! This is the Inflation Reduction Act of 2022 and climate change "incentives" are bundled along with health care, tax reform, etc.
 
CuriousGeorge said:
Yeah, I noticed that as well... the SE definitely flys under the EV radar (which to me is one of its appeals).
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Still, I'm surprised with the very limited number of EVs sold in the US, that the august Consumer Reports would be working with an incomplete list. I just searched on consumerreports.org and could not find any mention of the MINI Cooper SE.
 
insightman said:
Still, I'm surprised with the very limited number of EVs sold in the US, that the august Consumer Reports would be working with an incomplete list. I just searched on consumerreports.org and could not find any mention of the MINI Cooper SE.
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I've noticed the same omission by CE. I wonder if they don't deem it worthy due to range? I tweeted at the reporter recommending that they update the article to include the SE.
 
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