What conditions need to met for the Fastchargers to give me max KW Charging?
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Kirk
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Kona 2021 Ultimate here. We've been using the free-to-charge Chevron "on the run" network while they are in beta testing, and had varying charge rates.
These "Journey" DC chargers have a battery pack inside them that feeds the two stations per tower. I had the chance to speak with a maintenance tech and he explained that if somebody with a large battery has been charging before you and discharged the tower battery, your charge rate will be low.
Apparently Canada Post and Purolator are testing ev delivery vehicles that can empty the charger's battery. Most of the time, our Kona follows the oem charge curve that throttles the battery charge rate well before the 80% soc has been reached. If we need to charge to 100%, we use a dc fast charger to 80% and then top it off to 100% from the granny charger at home Btw, I am running the oem charger on 240volts, no issues.
These "Journey" DC chargers have a battery pack inside them that feeds the two stations per tower. I had the chance to speak with a maintenance tech and he explained that if somebody with a large battery has been charging before you and discharged the tower battery, your charge rate will be low.
Apparently Canada Post and Purolator are testing ev delivery vehicles that can empty the charger's battery. Most of the time, our Kona follows the oem charge curve that throttles the battery charge rate well before the 80% soc has been reached. If we need to charge to 100%, we use a dc fast charger to 80% and then top it off to 100% from the granny charger at home Btw, I am running the oem charger on 240volts, no issues.
Typically, the 14 local Canada Post EVs located here use the base charging station at the facility however may indeed require a top up if required.
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A friend drives a Canada Post rural community mailbox run with an older Soul EV and is fortunate enough to have a Chevron charger mid-route.
I am happy to see the transition to electric, especially when a lot of the gas driven vehicles tend to keep the engine running in the winter when dropping off parcels etc
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R P
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Yup, had that happen to me many times. My car starts off at 103kw and a short time later drops to 15kw. I move on then. Goes into "Conservation" mode. Sometimes it just stops. And when I restart it is 15kw. Not very good...
Tesla has just made changes to its supercharger rates again (Canada), this time major good.
Off peak rates on specific charger locations (like on some in U.S.A.)
Check these out:
"In BC, we were able to find off-peak hours at the Richmond Supercharger on Steveston Hwy, which now has rates as low as $0.10 during the off-peak hours between 12:00am and 4:00am, increasing to $0.27 between 4:00am and 2:00pm, and the highest rate of $0.34 during the peak hours of 2:00pm to 12:00am. The Coquitlam Supercharger on Lougheed Hwy has also switched, but this station has four peak and off-peak periods with rates ranging from $0.13 to $0.36."
Like to see this kind of thing spread to all charging networks.
Please Hyundai, join NACS, and send me an approved adapter
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New 2025 Kona EV Preferred owner here. Live in southern Ontario near Toronto. Had the car for 2 months. Home charging works great. Been on 2 different longer trips recently requiring "fast" charging at public chargers. Used different chargers (Flo, Chargepoint, EV Connect) but never achieved more than 30 kW charge rate (and usually in 21 to 27 kW range). Charger capabilities were either 50 kW (or 62.5 kW in one case). Battery was conditioned to accept a charge but doesn't seem to matter.
Plan to try a 100 kW Flo charger in Peterborough to see if the issue is my car or the chargers I've used. Will let you know the result. Not a lot of choice in rural areas unless I have an adaptor for Tesla chargers.
Can anyone recommend a good CCS-to-NACS adaptor that's compatible with my Kona? Thanks in advance.
Plan to try a 100 kW Flo charger in Peterborough to see if the issue is my car or the chargers I've used. Will let you know the result. Not a lot of choice in rural areas unless I have an adaptor for Tesla chargers.
Can anyone recommend a good CCS-to-NACS adaptor that's compatible with my Kona? Thanks in advance.
According to this article access (without the use of a Magic Dock equipped site) will be in first quarter of 2025. The approved NACS to CCS connector will be provided (at a cost unknown at this point) with those cars without the J3400 port:
" The new Tesla NACS-equipped Ioniq 5s will come with a CCS adapter, while current Ioniq 5 owners will be able to purchase a Tesla-style adapter for their cars soon too. More details on the latter are coming soon, Hyundai officials said, but they expect all current owners to get their adapters and be able to access the Tesla network in the first quarter of 2025. When the 2025 Ioniq 5 launches, it will be ready from the start to use the Tesla network. "
Also this from Tesla site :
The following vehicle manufacturers have access to NACS Superchargers:
- Ford
- General Motors (GM)
- Polestar
- Rivian
- Volvo
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Ferenc Jakab
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Wow! Tesla charge as much as 90c here for non Tesla. Good thing is we only need CCS2. Haven't yet succumbed to the North American penchant for ignoring internationally agreed standards. We also haven't lost a Mars lander because some one didn't convert imperial to metric.Tesla has just made changes to its supercharger rates again (Canada), this time major good.
Off peak rates on specific charger locations (like on some in U.S.A.)
Check these out:
"In BC, we were able to find off-peak hours at the Richmond Supercharger on Steveston Hwy, which now has rates as low as $0.10 during the off-peak hours between 12:00am and 4:00am, increasing to $0.27 between 4:00am and 2:00pm, and the highest rate of $0.34 during the peak hours of 2:00pm to 12:00am. The Coquitlam Supercharger on Lougheed Hwy has also switched, but this station has four peak and off-peak periods with rates ranging from $0.13 to $0.36."
Like to see this kind of thing spread to all charging networks.
Please Hyundai, join NACS, and send me an approved adapter
Yesterday I charged my 2024 SEL on a new Flo 160kW charger here in Vermont. It was 29F degrees and I had preconditioned the battery for about the last 20 minutes of driving before reaching the charger. The car was at a 15% state of charge and got a max of 84kW right away. The rate fluctuated between 84kW and 68kW during my 20 minute session and I got a total of 23kWH into the battery.