There is an article https://www.bloomberg.com/news/arti...-in-bid-to-rival-tesla-with-hybrid-sports-car
In this article if not spun Toyota announces that it will only have at most 12 percent full electrics 13 years from now. Maybe that is just kow tow to the Trump admin? No one should be doing that? This would suggest that Toyota has given up on the Chinese market which requires that level of 12% now and by 2030 will quite possibly be 100% electric. Hydrogen will never be credible because push behind it is it would be petrol derived, a problem there as it would have worse economic efficiency than petrol which already isn't economically viable and have the same pollution or close.
The other thing that is going on here is a scam on speed and the potential of petrol cars to still compete performance wise. We saw it recently with McLaren trying to say its 720 hybrid or one of its 7 series beat a model S at the track and it is the new speed king. Actually it got spanked, because the only thing the model S was generally competing on was 0-60 and it still trashes the McLaren- so just a straight up lie. Then Acura with an even slower car another hybrid did the same thing, just a pure lie the S, smashes them. And these are stupid lies because enough of their customers will take these products to the tracks and lose. And now Toyota seems to be trying to do the same thing.
Toyota puts out some more nuanced rhetoric here. But they of course know its not accurate. They say electric off the line with torque and then high rev range ICE duplicate power train to keep the acceleration going. But this is non sense as you just put a differently tuned electric motor in the front of car as with the roadster and the issue is resolved. Total apparent in the Roadster's stats. Totally apparent when super car hybrids have trouble with model S and even the X. Its true that some rally cars get less than 2.0 seconds 0-60 and dragsters (although electrics have to be coming) are much quicker still, but its nonsense to think that fat filled dual power train petrol shill cars will be competitive with roadster level electric tech, and that was just the base model roadster.
Its very disappointing from Toyota, because if this is true it means more hobble ware. They will do something like make the 2022 electric Camry non-competitive. This isn't just market choice. It makes Toyota sound like a brand of gasoline.
In this article if not spun Toyota announces that it will only have at most 12 percent full electrics 13 years from now. Maybe that is just kow tow to the Trump admin? No one should be doing that? This would suggest that Toyota has given up on the Chinese market which requires that level of 12% now and by 2030 will quite possibly be 100% electric. Hydrogen will never be credible because push behind it is it would be petrol derived, a problem there as it would have worse economic efficiency than petrol which already isn't economically viable and have the same pollution or close.
The other thing that is going on here is a scam on speed and the potential of petrol cars to still compete performance wise. We saw it recently with McLaren trying to say its 720 hybrid or one of its 7 series beat a model S at the track and it is the new speed king. Actually it got spanked, because the only thing the model S was generally competing on was 0-60 and it still trashes the McLaren- so just a straight up lie. Then Acura with an even slower car another hybrid did the same thing, just a pure lie the S, smashes them. And these are stupid lies because enough of their customers will take these products to the tracks and lose. And now Toyota seems to be trying to do the same thing.
Toyota puts out some more nuanced rhetoric here. But they of course know its not accurate. They say electric off the line with torque and then high rev range ICE duplicate power train to keep the acceleration going. But this is non sense as you just put a differently tuned electric motor in the front of car as with the roadster and the issue is resolved. Total apparent in the Roadster's stats. Totally apparent when super car hybrids have trouble with model S and even the X. Its true that some rally cars get less than 2.0 seconds 0-60 and dragsters (although electrics have to be coming) are much quicker still, but its nonsense to think that fat filled dual power train petrol shill cars will be competitive with roadster level electric tech, and that was just the base model roadster.
Its very disappointing from Toyota, because if this is true it means more hobble ware. They will do something like make the 2022 electric Camry non-competitive. This isn't just market choice. It makes Toyota sound like a brand of gasoline.
