Tires (Summer/Winter/All-Season)

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I now have about a year and 8,000 miles on a set of Pirelli Cinturato P7 All Season. These EV tuned Pirellis are nice tires, responsive, balanced well but, as expected, on a 80 F day not as sticky as the OEM Ventus. Lateral traction feels about the same but I can spin the tires a bit which was rare with the OEM Ventus. They sing on some road surfaces but are quieter than the 20,000 mile Ventus they replaced. They have either been getting quieter with miles, or my hearing is going. Range seems to be a little better than the OEMs and the tread still look brand new. It was nice to be able to drive safely in cold weather. These low profile tires do not isolate bumps well.
 
I finally decided to keep a spreadsheet of my tire longevity. I recently got four new Goodyear summer tires and immediately logged the date of mounting and odometer. I'll update when I switch to my winter wheels and back again, eventually knowing exactly how many miles are put on before replacement.

I'm intending to do the same with my winter tires, but I'm mid-use with them, and I've only been replacing them in pairs so it'll be a bit more challenging.
 
ColdCase said:
I now have about a year and 8,000 miles on a set of Pirelli Cinturato P7 All Season. These EV tuned Pirellis are nice tires, responsive, balanced well but, as expected, on a 80 F day not as sticky as the OEM Ventus. Lateral traction feels about the same but I can spin the tires a bit which was rare with the OEM Ventus. They sing on some road surfaces but are quieter than the 20,000 mile Ventus they replaced. They have either been getting quieter with miles, or my hearing is going. Range seems to be a little better than the OEMs and the tread still look brand new. It was nice to be able to drive safely in cold weather. These low profile tires do not isolate bumps well.
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Are those Pirelli's as quiet for hard-cornering as the 'Kooks? I'm also curious if the OEM Pirelli's are quiet-hooning tires.
 
Took our cars to have our tires rotated today. Thought it had only been 6 months, but it had been a year. My Indy 500s still had 5/32s in front and 7/32s in the rear, after almost 20k mi! This is my 3rd set, and I usually have to replace them after 20k. Guess I'll wait until fall.

My wife's q4 etron quattro came w some Bridgestones stock. They lasted about 20k mi. We got another set last year and the rears are already at 2-4/32s after another 20k. The problem is that her fronts and rears are different sizes, so she can't do a rotation. Ordered some cross climate 2s this time for her. Can't wait to test them out.
 
insightman said:
Thanks! I loved your description! I don't believe even my favorite 'Kooks can perform that maneuver in silence.
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It is a literal description - in fact, that corner might even be closer to 100 degrees. I like to explore the limits there because 1) it comes shortly after some bumpy RR tracks, and taking the corner fast lets me quickly distance any bumper-riding bro dozer that doesn't like the fact that I slow to 15 mph for them, and 2) the road that I am turning onto has a left turn lane that gives extra room should (when) I run wide.

It's a bit of juvenile thing to do, but it's fun, and I figure that it is good to know precisely how your car will respond in an emergency situation.
 
insightman said:
Are those Pirelli's as quiet for hard-cornering as the 'Kooks? I'm also curious if the OEM Pirelli's are quiet-hooning tires.
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The OEM kooks were quiet initially but got noisy with the miles. They wore uneven, especially the passenger front. Dealer says the alignment was on the button. I would have expected more wear on the driver's side with many more right turn off ramps carrying some speed. The Pirelli's sang when new on some road surfaces but have gotten quieter with the miles.

The kook were more confidence inspiring, but that may just be me. I notice the traction difference more in acceleration. I think the Kooks tread pattern is more optimized for performance. I haven't heard the Pirelli's squeal, they just start to slide.

I think Pirelli has revised the P7 thread in this tire size at least once to address the noise. Mine were the version before the newer tread and were OEM on many. I didn't see much noise complaints reported, but we know that the SE is not going to isolate much from the environment.

The Kooks develop cracks because of just a bit of cold weather abuse. I wanted something that could handle 15 F without damage at least. Neither tire has spent much time in snow. I have a Jeep with snow tires for that.
 
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