Tesla stock price

  • Thread starter Thread starter R P
  • Start date Start date
  • Replies Replies 574
  • Views Views 122K
Crap!! 90 day tariff pause, just when the markets were coming down to some good buys. I did manage to catch some in the last few days, but was waiting to get a couple more, and was close.

My guess is Trump was getting pressure from the Repub Congress and wanted to ensure passage of his "big beautiful bill". Oh well, might have another chance for some good buys in 90 days. Meanwhile will ride up my recent new buys and look to sell as soon as I see a top.

TSLA along with the other tech stocks getting a huge boost. Pretty broad market rally right now.
 
My guess is Trump was getting pressure from the Repub Congress and wanted to ensure passage of his "big beautiful bill".
Click to expand...

I think the bond market, specifically the 10 year, might have caught their attention, too.
 
I watched Dalio on one of the business networks, yesterday or the day before. And if people had been watching and listening to what Trump himself has been saying (instead of CNN or MSNBC) over the last 6 months, they would have a much better understanding of what is happening and playing out. I still remember watching Trump give a 1 hour long masterclass debate response to a Bloomberg economist about tariffs and how to use them. And that is exactly what is playing out now.


It was at the Chicago Club last year, not exactly a friendly audience, but they were cheering him before the end.
 
Should be interesting what happens tomorrow. Maybe China will hit back by dumping US treasuries. 10 year bond yields went up today, meaning price going down due to selling. Same with MBS (mortgage back securities) also held by Chinese and others. That could send interest and mortgage rates higher. And if other countries join in, could be gang up on the US.
 
You' all are projecting too much into our sociopath in Chief. Regardless, of what he does, it has little impact on my TSLA stock compared to:

Tesla (TSLA) is expected to announce its Q1 2025 financial results after the market closes on Tuesday, April 22, 2025. ​

I have a short position, 10 shares @$270/share, and a "buy to close" at $195/share or it ends May 4th. I'll book my profit or loss then and be done with TSLA investing. I don't invest in companies whose management has become distracted.

I've already moved my investment capital here:
solar_top_all_close.webp

We still have about 30 days remaining that I will have any curiosity about TSLA stock. Just remember, I have no expectation Musk will have a "road to Damascus" moment.

Bob Wilson
 
Last edited:
R P said:
If markets are any indication (up at this time today), seems like the US is winning the battle so far, with countries lining up to renegotiate their trading relationships. Even TSLA is up today.
Click to expand...

Puh-leeze. The bond market tanked, Trump's advisors freaked and got him to hit the pause button, then they went out and lied and claimed that this was the brilliant strategy all along -- the strategy that they were saying 24 hours before was "not a negotiation." Chances are there was some insider trading going on, too. It's economic policy run by Killer Klowns from Outer Space (which is in fact an actual movie).
 
What I am seeing in this thread, and in conversations and postings elsewhere, is people imprinting their thoughts and reasoning on a person with no thoughts or reasoning.
There is no strategy, there is no logic.
YEs, sometimes things will work out, a complex system reacts to inputs, but that does not mean the inputs are rational
This is not about fixing a perceived economic wrong, it is about proving one persons personal power.
That is all.
It will not end here with tariffs
 
Those folks who sold TSLA recently have a bundle of cash:
upload_2025-4-10_6-42-33.webp
So when the market rebounded (dead cat bounce?), they had cash to buy TSLA stock but perhaps not as many shares as before. They lost part of their capital helping to bid-up TSLA stock. Under performance after Musk got distracted has been a growing problem for the past year which is why I sold my TSLA.

I had some spare capital left over so I put a small amount in a short-sell instead of a savings account. Based on 'after hours,' I'm already $80 ahead versus -$20 at market close yesterday. My final accounting will be May 4th.

I suspect the MAGA crowd funded the bid up in January and brief bid up Wednesday afternoon. They are also the ones most likely to lose their capital. Especially considering there is no evidence of "value adding" policies from the sociopath in Chief.

Bob Wilson
 
ENirogus said:
people imprinting their thoughts and reasoning on a person with no thoughts or reasoning.
Click to expand...
I would have said, "people projecting their thoughts and reasoning on a person with no thoughts or reasoning."

I would only add, longer term trends have more effect than the daily news.

Bob Wilson
 
Looks like we are in bouncing ball mode again today. Yesterday had a big bounce up, and today a big bounce down, already down more than 1/2 the highs of yesterday. Will have to see how low it gets today. Not likely to reach yesterday's lows. But may take a few bounces until we know where markets will end up. And again lows need to be tested at least 3 times to indicate at least a short term bottom.

Another fact to keep in mind is how individual stock price movements are influenced. Generally 70% of the time a stock movement is influenced by the markets, 20% by the sector they are in, and only 10% of the time by individual news or events about the stock, eg qtrly reports, pre-announcements, sales reports, reports, etc.
 
As long as we're in a game of tariff ping-pong, there will be no stability. Tesla still has issues unrelated to tariffs, of course -- stale product line, Musk's unpopularity -- but the entire vehicle industry is in turmoil now because literally no one knows what the eff is happening or how to plan for next week, much less what products they can sell next year or three years from now or where they should build them or source the components from. It's near impossible to run an a company in this field if you can't plan several years ahead and have some reasonable idea of what your costs might be. Others, from GM to Rivian, have seen their shares bounce up and down, too. If you want to build a coherent strategy to encourage more manufacturing within the U.S., there are ways to do that, but this ain't it.
 
This instability flows down hill to consumers who wisely withhold large purchases they may not be able to pay off. Fewer goods purchased backs up the sellers and manufacturers . . . layoffs and more uncertainty. A vicious cycle that vacillating tariff policies exacerbates. But all of these effects have longer than a day lead times.

The 1929 stock market crash did not instantly lead to the Great Depression. It was the descending spiral of companies closing, unemployment, closings, and Hoovervilles.

Bob Wilson
 
Took some profits this morning on some good buys a few days ago. And the current stock prices are already below my sells. I could have held out for more, but I don't trust this market to go too high today. I expect that bouncing ball to flatten out now.

We had more good news on the inflation front this morning, and that is what drove up the market. But I don't think it will hold and there will be more buying opportunities. These tariff negotiations are not going to end anytime soon. And the supply chain disruptions haven't really hit yet. When they do, I thing there will be more market downturn.

TSLA was up briefly this morning, as were most stocks, but going down again now.
 
bwilson4web said:
This instability flows down hill to consumers who wisely withhold large purchases they may not be able to pay off. Fewer goods purchased backs up the sellers and manufacturers . . . layoffs and more uncertainty. A vicious cycle that vacillating tariff policies exacerbates. But all of these effects have longer than a day lead times.

The 1929 stock market crash did not instantly lead to the Great Depression. It was the descending spiral of companies closing, unemployment, closings, and Hoovervilles.

Bob Wilson
Click to expand...

Exactly. There were some reports of people rushing purchases of everything from vehicles to toilet paper to beat the tariffs, but that will fade quickly. If the vehicle tariffs remain, they may well delay my next car purchase -- meaning some salesperson won't get a commission and all the companies involved in shipping that vehicle, supplying components, etc., will all lose a little.
 
Bruce M. said:
Exactly. There were some reports of people rushing purchases of everything from vehicles to toilet paper to beat the tariffs, but that will fade quickly. If the vehicle tariffs remain, they may well delay my next car purchase -- meaning some salesperson won't get a commission and all the companies involved in shipping that vehicle, supplying components, etc., will all lose a little.
Click to expand...
I think the current car inventory will be used up soon, and the new inventory will have significantly increased prices. A lot of companies bought forward, but that will halt now as they wait for the tariffs to shake out. However, the consumer will also hold back, esp with larger purchases. And companies also holding back on their capital spending plans. We are still a longs ways off from certainty, and that will probably continue for a few more months, and maybe much longer. Realigning world trade will not happen quickly, and even the extent of that may be a lot less than some are hoping for.
 
Like my stock investments, I play a long game. My expectation is an abundance of supply from end-of-lease and more reluctant, tepid buyers. A buyer’s market.

Bob Wilson
 
Retested Full Self Driving and the construction blocked road:


  • Left turn approach - hesitates and then drives in the opposing traffic lane to next intersection. Exciting the first time.
  • Straight approach - signals a turn even showing original route through blocked street. Signals a safe turn and then remaps route.
  • Right turn approach - some hesitancy looking for a way through but eventually through intersection to next right turn.
It sure would be nice if Tesla had some Cracker Jack programmers to fix this problem.

Bob Wilson
 
ENirogus said:
There is no strategy, there is no logic.
Click to expand...
image.thumb.png.7323d351cb282b8d0577fc3d17474b87.png
:D
 
You must log in or register to reply here.
Back
Top