That is normal for what dealers charge, but the checks they are doing can easily be done by any mechanic and most of the checks would be free when doing a tire rotation or other service elsewhere, I would negotiate to the cost of a tire rotation (the cost as charged by your local tire shop, not the dealership)
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I am sure you meant cleaning and re-lubing the caliper sliding pins. Excellent advice, often even mechanics neglect to do that.
I use a hi-temp copper or ceramic formula. 3M 08945 Copper Anti Seize Brake Lube works great.
The caliper bolts do not need to be lubed, although I put some threadlocker on them before reassembly.
My 2021 manual wants me to check my brake pedal free play during the first inspection. I did that and recorded the result, but I do not know the correct spec. Does anyone know? (FYI - no problems with the brakes or anything else for that matter. Doing the inspection was an obligation for keeping the warranty. I did it myself and recorded with lots of pictures and notes.)
Couldn't find that in my 21 manual, but just for kicks I tried it on a slight incline in my driveway and find the integrated hydraulic brake master cylinder starts applying the actual brakes at about 1/2 to 3/4 inch pedal depression, fluid level in reservoir filled just below the bottom of the cap, hope that helps.
What surprised me while doing this test is the VESS actually is additionally motion activated. The car was silent until the very slow roll back in neutral approached about one full wheel rotation, thought previous to this test it was strictly activated by gear (drive or reverse) application.
Keep in mind the manual referred to also requires the owner to check for loose wheel lug nuts monthly- don't even own a torque wrench to do that and don't remember seeing that specifically in the "accessories" available in their website.
Also mentioned as an owner requirement- yearly "Lubricate door checker" ... don't have a clue what that is either.
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Wildeyed
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I'd assume that a "door checker" is the spring-loaded pin/switch that opens and closes with the doors to let the car know when the doors are open or closed.Couldn't find that in my 21 manual, but just for kicks I tried it on a slight incline in my driveway and find the integrated hydraulic brake master cylinder starts applying the actual brakes at about 1/2 to 3/4 inch pedal depression, fluid level in reservoir filled just below the bottom of the cap, hope that helps.
What surprised me while doing this test is the VESS actually is additionally motion activated. The car was silent until the very slow roll back in neutral approached about one full wheel rotation, thought previous to this test it was strictly activated by gear (drive or reverse) application.
Keep in mind the manual referred to also requires the owner to check for loose wheel lug nuts monthly- don't even own a torque wrench to do that and don't remember seeing that specifically in the "accessories" available in their website.
Also mentioned as an owner requirement- yearly "Lubricate door checker" ... don't have a clue what that is either.
Wildeyed
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Most of them would benefit from yearly lubrication too. You can't go wrong!
navguy12
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Been lurking on this thread a while and re-read the whole thing last night.
The owners manual in my wife’s 2021 calls for the R&R of the “blue” battery coolant at three years.
This appears to be a dealership only option to do this recommended maintenance.
It is my hope that prior to Aug 2023, that ridiculous call to change that fluid after only three years will morf into a longer time period with successive model year roll outs.
At worst, the actual operating envelope of that fluid is 2 PSI and an upper temperature of about 40c.
Unless some subject matter expert on coolants used in EVs can pipe up, I cannot understand why the battery coolant fluid in my TM3 is allowed to remain in the car for the life of the car, whilst the product in the Kona is only good for three years.
The owners manual in my wife’s 2021 calls for the R&R of the “blue” battery coolant at three years.
This appears to be a dealership only option to do this recommended maintenance.
It is my hope that prior to Aug 2023, that ridiculous call to change that fluid after only three years will morf into a longer time period with successive model year roll outs.
At worst, the actual operating envelope of that fluid is 2 PSI and an upper temperature of about 40c.
Unless some subject matter expert on coolants used in EVs can pipe up, I cannot understand why the battery coolant fluid in my TM3 is allowed to remain in the car for the life of the car, whilst the product in the Kona is only good for three years.
Ginginova
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Tesla is warranted for 80 thousand kilometers only here in Europe. While Hyundai Kona EV is warranted for full 5 years with no mileage limit for most components with only mileage limit applying for the traction battery.
Tesla wants you to buy new car when it breaks apart, like Apple does for the iPhone when the battery goes bad after 2 years.
Every company has its own business model.
Hyundai still has traditional one - keep dealers happy to keep customers happy.
Tesla has a business model to only keep shareholders happy. For the rest they hope fanboy factor buyin will stay strong enough even when customer cars fall apart outside warranty period.
Tesla wants you to buy new car when it breaks apart, like Apple does for the iPhone when the battery goes bad after 2 years.
Every company has its own business model.
Hyundai still has traditional one - keep dealers happy to keep customers happy.
Tesla has a business model to only keep shareholders happy. For the rest they hope fanboy factor buyin will stay strong enough even when customer cars fall apart outside warranty period.
navguy12
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Rhetoric aside, according to the Tesla EU page, the Tesla warranty in the EU is the same as in Canada:
https://www.tesla.com/en_EU/support/vehicle-warranty
https://www.tesla.com/en_EU/support/vehicle-warranty
For your reference (and to answer my own question) brake pedal freeplay is 2-4mm according to https://www.hkona.com/specifications-1076.html What you are measuring is the slack in the brake linkage, so it's maybe 1kg on force on the pedal.
Mine measured 2mm on a 2021 Kona with 12000km.
FYI - I am glad I did this work myself (with copious backup photos to prove it). It was good to get to know Knoa my Kona.
Mine measured 2mm on a 2021 Kona with 12000km.
FYI - I am glad I did this work myself (with copious backup photos to prove it). It was good to get to know Knoa my Kona.
That makes sense. I had similar issues with the GMC vans I used to drive and the lack of grease would cause a creaking noise and make the door harder to close.
