PHEVs to Rule Trucks?

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brianc35 said:
My biggest thing is i'm on a well -- i need 240v, and that means a big portable system with a running consumption of a LOT of gas. Gas doesnt' store well. and when there's no power here, the gas stations don't have it either.
The truck bank as a back up would be a true back up... keep the fridge on and let us flush the toilets for a few days. If i'm not home, there's likely nothing in my fridge anyway, and who needs water?
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Our $800 NG fired generator has 240 volts, just not enough to run a big AC. For a well it should be fine.
 
Fuel efficiency only matters if it is a significant part of one's daily expense. So diesels dominate semi-trailer trucks because of the fuel savings (even with current diesel prices.)

Bob Wilson
 
David Towle said:

No word on the Ramcharger, but after their other PHEV debacles my guess is the Ramcharger is toast.
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Indeed. We should all be driving a Honda Clarity with their reliable air conditioning components, durable wheel bearings and dependable fuel pumps. Did I forget to mention the long lasting 12V battery. All of which are innovative ideas that Honda has managed to perfect at this early stage of development. Wait, did Honda scrap that car?

It should be obvious why automakers are scaling back or discontinuing production of electrified vehicles. Let me know if you’d like some more information on that subject.

Who started this conversation about how the Ramcharger was going to revolutionize the PHEV market? Wasn’t it an “amazing idea”?
 
bwilson4web said:
Fuel efficiency only matters if it is a significant part of one's daily expense. So diesels dominate semi-trailer trucks because of the fuel savings (even with current diesel prices.)

Bob Wilson
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Truck buyers want gas or diesel. Ford and GM/Chevy, combined, sold about 2,000,000 conventional trucks last year compared to about 60,000 electric trucks. Now Ford has stopped making the electric F-150 and is taking a $20B loss on the project, so those numbers will be considerably less this year.
Ford also set the record for most recalls last year.

BEV’s and PHEV’s aren’t profitable, conventional trucks and SUV’s are. All the hype from manufacturers about wanting to develop and make electrified vehicles is just PRBS. The only reason any of them did was because they were compelled by outside forces to do so. The products were rushed to market, so those of us who bought in had to deal with the teething problems. Lesson learned.
 
Landshark said:
BEV’s and PHEV’s aren’t profitable,
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For manufacturers, Tesla is still in business as are a number of Chinese EV makers.

For this owner of a 2019 Tesla Model 3 and 2017 BMW i3-REx, have been way more affordable than my previous Prius and ICE vehicles:
  • Purchase prices
    • $24,000 - 2019 Tesla Model 3 with the $18,300 trade-in of my former 2017 Prius Prime
    • $15,000 - 2017 BMW i3-REx from a Toyota dealer in Florida
  • Operational costs
    • free local miles - my solar roof charges one car while I run errands in the other
    • parity in Tesla SuperCharger and Prius Prime gas costs on out of town trips
    • BMW i3-REx gets ~37 MPG on out of town trips so it is used for local driving
  • Maintenance
    • 171,000 miles on Tesla - battery replacement, $9k, about the same as an engine/transmission replacement
    • 80,000 miles on BMW - just tires every 30,000 miles
Bob Wilson
 
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