KentuckyKen
Well-Known Member
Thanks to @Atkinson for sending me a treasure trove of docs he found on Honda Tech. The best of the lot is the attached Pre Delivery Inspection (SB 17-093) that lists a lot of info not previously sourced on the forum.
Here are some of the highlights:
1. We finally have a documented metric on when Honda will replace our batteries. It says this will be a warranty covered replacement when the battery degrades to less than 36.6 Ah. The original capacity is ~55 Ah so we get a battery replacement under warranty after losing ~1/3 of our capacity or range. Note that the car will NOT throw a diagnostic code for this. The only way to know is to go to the dealer and have them check the Battery Pack Capacity signal with their i-HDS. Or wait until ScanGague and our beta tester, @AnthonyW gets it working.
So 33% div by 8 yr warranty = ~4% loss per year worst case. That’s pretty good and even better in Cali w their 10 yr warranty.
Some of you EE guys please check my math and assumptions here.
2. It has pix of 2 jacking points (rear at center tie down and front on casing in a triangular opening just behind the center line of the front wheels). These are how you jack the front or rear end (both wheels) off the ground. It also shows the 4 lift point on the sides where you can see a welded angle piece. And cautions against lifting anywhere else.
3. It says the dealer is to charge the HV battery but explicitly says NOT to use the customer’s charging cable. This may explain why a lot of dealers are not charging their Claritys. They’re too cheap to buy a charger. (Not going to get into the stupidity issue!)
4. It says to install 4 body plugs (under car just behind front wheels and just before rear wheels and has a picture). It says “they are part of the noise reduction package and play a big part in reducing road noise”. I checked my car and they were not installed! I have my dealer ordering them now. So I have little faith that the pre delivery inspection was done correctly. You might want to check your Claritys for this. They fit in oblong oval holes (maybe 1x2”) about 6” from the edge of the sides of the car.
5. misc tidbits:
-Shows the 2 fuses pulled during shipping to reduce battery drain. May be helpful for those who store their Clarity for a period.
-Each wiper arm has its own motor. So they are not connected and are controlled by the computer as to position. I accidentally reversed their testing positions during a wash n wax and one moved by itself and then they reset to their correct positions. Wow!
-The Nav System is supposed to be checked by dealer per SB 17-094
-Says the dealer is to check the remote climate control, charging, etc, and make sure the charging timer is not set.
-Says you cannot start the car or charge the battery below -22 F and that charging times go up with cold weather.
All the thanks goes to @Atkinson for finding this and to @AnthonyW for finding all the battery info so I could do the calculations. I’m just carrying their water and making this available.
Here are some of the highlights:
1. We finally have a documented metric on when Honda will replace our batteries. It says this will be a warranty covered replacement when the battery degrades to less than 36.6 Ah. The original capacity is ~55 Ah so we get a battery replacement under warranty after losing ~1/3 of our capacity or range. Note that the car will NOT throw a diagnostic code for this. The only way to know is to go to the dealer and have them check the Battery Pack Capacity signal with their i-HDS. Or wait until ScanGague and our beta tester, @AnthonyW gets it working.
So 33% div by 8 yr warranty = ~4% loss per year worst case. That’s pretty good and even better in Cali w their 10 yr warranty.
Some of you EE guys please check my math and assumptions here.
2. It has pix of 2 jacking points (rear at center tie down and front on casing in a triangular opening just behind the center line of the front wheels). These are how you jack the front or rear end (both wheels) off the ground. It also shows the 4 lift point on the sides where you can see a welded angle piece. And cautions against lifting anywhere else.
3. It says the dealer is to charge the HV battery but explicitly says NOT to use the customer’s charging cable. This may explain why a lot of dealers are not charging their Claritys. They’re too cheap to buy a charger. (Not going to get into the stupidity issue!)
4. It says to install 4 body plugs (under car just behind front wheels and just before rear wheels and has a picture). It says “they are part of the noise reduction package and play a big part in reducing road noise”. I checked my car and they were not installed! I have my dealer ordering them now. So I have little faith that the pre delivery inspection was done correctly. You might want to check your Claritys for this. They fit in oblong oval holes (maybe 1x2”) about 6” from the edge of the sides of the car.
5. misc tidbits:
-Shows the 2 fuses pulled during shipping to reduce battery drain. May be helpful for those who store their Clarity for a period.
-Each wiper arm has its own motor. So they are not connected and are controlled by the computer as to position. I accidentally reversed their testing positions during a wash n wax and one moved by itself and then they reset to their correct positions. Wow!
-The Nav System is supposed to be checked by dealer per SB 17-094
-Says the dealer is to check the remote climate control, charging, etc, and make sure the charging timer is not set.
-Says you cannot start the car or charge the battery below -22 F and that charging times go up with cold weather.
All the thanks goes to @Atkinson for finding this and to @AnthonyW for finding all the battery info so I could do the calculations. I’m just carrying their water and making this available.
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