Is it just me...

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Wow...wagon/hatchback/SUV ish format, awd....those are all the checkboxes Honda missed with the Clarity, which might have made it more successful in sales, if Honda ever even wanted sales success which I still think is questionable.

Too bad it’s a Peugeot. That’s a big strike against it from a trusted brand/established dealer network standpoint in the US.

But frankly it looks great on paper IMO. I like it. Maybe they’ll collaborate somehow with a mfr that sells in the US someday...
 
Unless I'm reading it wrong, the European battery range tests seem easier than the US EPA tests. They are claiming ~40 miles on their tests with a 13.2 kWh battery on an AWD SUV, and 39 miles on a 11.8 kWh battery in a car.
 
And I failed in my earlier post to mention zero to 60 in six seconds...which is yet another check box Honda missed for mass market appeal...

If this is the PHEV of the future, they WILL likely sell here. Again it's a shame it's a Peugeot. So the odds of seeing them in the states anytime soon seems to be rather low.

I likewise question the range claims based on stated battery size. BUT smaller battery means less weight, and maybe being 4 years newer they have found some efficiencies that Honda didn’t. I’d also like to know the fuel tank size...
 
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Man I wish the Clarity came as a wagon!
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JustAnotherPoorDriver said:
Unless I'm reading it wrong, the European battery range tests seem easier than the US EPA tests. They are claiming ~40 miles on their tests with a 13.2 kWh battery on an AWD SUV, and 39 miles on a 11.8 kWh battery in a car.
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It’s not just you. The European test is the NEDC (New European Driving Cycle) and always gives higher range than the more conservative and much more realistic US EPA range estimate.
The NEDC is being changed to the Worldwide harmonized Light vehicles Test Procedure (WLTP). All European EVs registered after Sept of 2018 are required to use the WLTP.
However, the WLTP, while better than the old NEDC, is somewhere between the EPA and NEDC. So it’s a little more reflective of real world driving but still too optimistic compared to our EPA test.
A good reference:
https://insideevs.com/features/3432...nflicting-ev-range-test-cycles-epa-wltp-nedc/
 
JustAnotherPoorDriver said:
Unless I'm reading it wrong, the European battery range tests seem easier than the US EPA tests. They are claiming ~40 miles on their tests with a 13.2 kWh battery on an AWD SUV, and 39 miles on a 11.8 kWh battery in a car.
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They say the Euro WLTP range estimates are at least 10% too high...
 
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