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Indianapolis Airport. Complimentary, DC fast for less than 8 hours and daily for extended stay.

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ericy said:
That looks like an old Mercedes B-class electric drive. Pretty rare, and limited range.
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Nope
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dawktah LucidGT said:
Ah, it wasn't plugged in. That's an interesting question, can you park in the space if you aren't plugged in for any EV?
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Oregon's statute doesn't reference what type of vehicle can park in EV charging spots, only that it must be engaged in the refueling process.
So in Oregon - no, you can't park there if not plugged in. Subject to interpretation as to what happens if you stay plugged in after your charge session has finished.
 
DucRider said:
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Oregon's statute doesn't reference what type of vehicle can park in EV charging spots, only that it must be engaged in the refueling process.
So in Oregon - no, you can't park there if not plugged in. Subject to interpretation as to what happens if you stay plugged in after your charge session has finished.
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Looks eerily similar to EQB, regardless, move aside if not charging :
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It matters less about the story that's been written so far, it's how the rest of the pages unfold, that counts;)
https://driveteslacanada.ca/news/the-new-mercedes-benz-eqb-arrives-in-canada-and-the-us-in-2022/
 
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I've often speculated that an EV parking spot ought to have a parking meter at a high rate, say $2/hr, but linked to the EVSE:
  • $0.25 minimum charge
  • $2/hr when not charging
  • $0.25/hr when charging
A dual use, EVSE and parking meter, easily solves the problem. Parking enforcement would handle the rest.

Bob Wilson
 
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bwilson4web said:
I've often speculated that an EV parking spot ought to have a parking meter at a high rate, say $2/hr, but linked to the EVSE:
  • $0.25 minimum charge
  • $2/hr when not charging
  • $0.25/hr when charging
A dual use, EVSE and parking meter, easily solves the problem. Parking enforcement would handle the rest.

Bob Wilson
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I guess this could work for "on the street" charging but this application is in parking garage at airport. I'm already paying to park, tacking on additional fees for being on charger the whole time you're on your 7 day vacation is a bit much. The charger at the doctors office building should be a complimentary charge as it is. Enforcement as you stated is the real issue.
 
dawktah LucidGT said:
I guess this could work for "on the street" charging but this application is in parking garage at airport. I'm already paying to park, tacking on additional fees for being on charger the whole time you're on your 7 day vacation is a bit much. The charger at the doctors office building should be a complimentary charge as it is. Enforcement as you stated is the real issue.
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Airport parking is a case where a valet service makes sense. The only problem are cars that lock the J1772 in the socket. There is an ugly workaround, removable latch, but it could be done. Ideally a J1772 variant that can not be locked in nor removed without dropping 'prescience'.

Say a grip sensor so if you grab it, prescience is dropped. Include LED lights so it can be viewed when the security golf cart comes around. Perhaps even a slow, once per minute, wifi/bluetooth status signal.

Bob Wilson
 
Anybody else see the stupid battery tender box that some asshole designed to be installed on diesel trucks or jeeps that "charges" their 12v battery? Was in vegas and a dick in a jeep was so proud of his little toy that let him plug in at an ev spot for no reason other than to brag he was "charging his battery" told me the website he bought it from but i forgot. Icethemout.com or some similar i cant seem to find it now.
 
Tommyb13662 said:
Anybody else see the stupid battery tender box that some asshole designed to be installed on diesel trucks or jeeps that "charges" their 12v battery? Was in vegas and a dick in a jeep was so proud of his little toy that let him plug in at an ev spot for no reason other than to brag he was "charging his battery" told me the website he bought it from but i forgot. Icethemout.com or some similar i cant seem to find it now.
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It's so tragic things like this have become political. I guess the good thing is it will blow up on DC fast charger.
 
Tommyb13662 said:
Anybody else see the stupid battery tender box that some asshole designed to be installed on diesel trucks or jeeps that "charges" their 12v battery? Was in vegas and a dick in a jeep was so proud of his little toy that let him plug in at an ev spot for no reason other than to brag he was "charging his battery" told me the website he bought it from but i forgot. Icethemout.com or some similar i cant seem to find it now.
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uh. this seems to be an extreme reaction to this.
 
dawktah LucidGT said:
Not really, ever heard of "Coal Rolling" or "Rolling Coal?
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Yes, but some dude charging a battery in the back of his jeep/truck at at level 2 charger isn't the same thing as rolling coal. I can't even find this specific product either, but I'm curious to how large the battery may be.

To be honest, some of the rolling coal is a response to the behavior that is satirized in the South Park episode "Smug Alert". (I have legit heard a dude use the same tone of voice bragging to be one of the first prius owners in the state I live in. lol)
https://www.imdb.com/title/tt0783418/?ref_=vp_back

(This same type of attitude is also why many people don't like or want to be associated with Tesla cars.)

You can think that behavior is irrational all you want to, but so is the obnoxious self-righteous attitude of some hybrid/plug-in-hybrid/bev drivers.
 
SouthernDude said:
Yes, but some dude charging a battery in the back of his jeep/truck at at level 2 charger isn't the same thing as rolling coal. I can't even find this specific product either, but I'm curious to how large the battery may be.

To be honest, some of the rolling coal is a response to the behavior that is satirized in the South Park episode "Smug Alert". (I have legit heard a dude use the same tone of voice bragging to be one of the first prius owners in the state I live in. lol)
https://www.imdb.com/title/tt0783418/?ref_=vp_back

(This same type of attitude is also why many people don't like or want to be associated with Tesla cars.)

You can think that behavior is irrational all you want to, but so is the obnoxious self-righteous attitude of some hybrid/plug-in-hybrid/bev drivers.
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The issue with product if it actually exists is that you could in essence tie up every charger with an ICE vehicle that is not a PHEV or BEV, but due to loose regulations would qualify as being able to occupy the space.

Interesting, never saw the video, before. Can't say I've encountered any hybrid or BEV owners with this tone. Have you seen the movie "Soylent Green?"

Are you a PHEV or BEV owner?

Found this: https://www.evseadapters.com/products/j1772-ev-adapter-for-ebike/

I could rig this up to charge 12v car battery in a few hours.
 
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dawktah LucidGT said:
The issue with product if it actually exists is that you could in essence tie up every charger with an ICE vehicle that is not a PHEV or BEV, but due to loose regulations would qualify as being able to occupy the space.
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Not really much of an issue because all that would do is increase the demand for more of that infrastructure in the short term. That would just benefit EVs in the long run.

dawktah LucidGT said:
Interesting, never saw the video, before. Can't say I've encountered any hybrid or BEV owners with this tone. Have you seen the movie "Soylent Green?"
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The attitude was far more prevalent among hybrid owners when they first came out. The prevalence reduced as more normal people bought hybrids and the same will happen with BEVs. The same people with that attitude who bought the hybrids first also bought BEVs first too. The attitude is still pretty awful with Tesla owners and will be until EVs become more normal from all the other manufacturers.

I have not watched that movie. Wikipedia page suggests that it was.. uh.. in line with the attitude I was referring too. lol

dawktah LucidGT said:
Are you a PHEV or BEV owner?
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Not yet. Saving money and waiting for a few stations to be built first.

dawktah LucidGT said:
Found this: https://www.evseadapters.com/products/j1772-ev-adapter-for-ebike/

I could rig this up to charge 12v car battery in a few hours.
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Very true. That could be done. But that doesn't seem to describe what the other guy was posting about.
 
One caution about the CCS1-to-Tesla adapter is a 50 kW limitation. Having used a 50 kW CHAdeMO-to-Tesla adapter, they are not terribly fast. I have not seen anything about the Sorth Korean adapter power limitation.

Bob Wilson
 
bwilson4web said:
One caution about the CCS1-to-Tesla adapter is a 50 kW limitation. Having used a 50 kW CHAdeMO-to-Tesla adapter, they are not terribly fast. I have not seen anything about the Sorth Korean adapter power limitation.

Bob Wilson
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I'm waiting to pick up the device in reverse Tesla-to-CCS1. If Elon opens up network I want to be ready instead of stuck in the "out of stock" queue.
 
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