Honda Clarity, the Volt Challenger

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Domenick I looked into this and can't find anything that prevents you viewing it. Can you check again to see if it is working or not please?

Here is what I see, same video unavailable (probably some kind of "permissions" like Loomis2 says). Almost forgot, Congrats on the solar panels coming online!

How is the dealer doing with diagnostics? Any news?

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Here is what I see, same video unavailable (probably some kind of "permissions" like Loomis2 says). Almost forgot, Congrats on the solar panels coming online!

How is the dealer doing with diagnostics? Any news?

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Interesting. It is set to public on youtube. I don't know what else I can do to make it visible to you. I republished it a moment ago though.

 
I just viewed the video from my wife's phone directly on youtube and she is able to see it. I wonder how to fix this.
 
Are Volt's really as expensive as they seem? I priced out the top of the line model (to get most, but not everything, my Touring has) and it came out to $40925 before destination charges. That's almost $4000 more than my Clarity, and quite frankly the interior materials, space, and ride comfort are not up to the Honda standards. Maybe it's just because they are out here in fossil fuel land where the demand is low, but that just seems like a big premium for a lesser vehicle.
 
Are Volt's really as expensive as they seem? I priced out the top of the line model (to get most, but not everything, my Touring has) and it came out to $40925 before destination charges. That's almost $4000 more than my Clarity, and quite frankly the interior materials, space, and ride comfort are not up to the Honda standards. Maybe it's just because they are out here in fossil fuel land where the demand is low, but that just seems like a big premium for a lesser vehicle.

That's MSRP, with some effort and patience, -$6k in discounts / negotiation can often be had with GM. Also, at the end of the model years, there have been occasional 20% discounted Volt prices.

I agree, the Clarity feels like more car for the money. I have a growing list of Volt features that I miss, but I still like the Clarity a lot.
 
Chevy will have to seriously consider dropping the price of the Volt or the clarity will eat their lunch. I also live in fossil fuel land and I think dealers are discounting their volts to move them. Unfortunately, the clarity is too new for it to be discounted at all yet, but it was still worth it to me.
 
Not sure where to jump in as this is my first post to a forum. Thanks to all for the breakdown on features of the Clarity in particular to jdonalds for thorough coverage.

A week ago my wife and I bought the Clarity touring PHEV to replace her 2004 Accord (230k mi). Currently on 800 mile trip and are very pleased so far. Our other car is an e-golf which we’re extremely happy with and with the solar panels we added to our house we hope to drop petroleum use to a minimum.

Question: does anyone find the turbo particularly noisy? I am wondering if ours has an issue. Even after foot comes off pedal the noise is still there. I know very little about turbos.

Separate note before I forget, I too am fine with the rear wheel covers however I foresee a potential seasonal problem. I’m not sure cables (chains) will safely fit between wheel and body.
 
Yes I do see the pin and did the pull down swipe. Thanks for pointing that out.

What bothers me is I've learned that the HondaLink features are free for 3 months, then there is a charge after that. I like the remote features but really an annual fee! Come on Honda don't bleed us for features of an app that barely work to begin with. I'm really opposed to fixed monthly or annual costs or so called subscriptions.

The one main feature I'd like to have is the Find My Car feature in case the car is stolen. I'll have to look into the long term cost of the HondaLink service vs LoJack or one of the other car finder tools.

How much does HondaLink cost?
The HondaLink app offers five tiers of features with different pricing for each level. Not all tier levels are available for each model and/or trim level.

Basic – FREE
  • Access to a digital owner’s manual
  • Recall notifications
  • Find and book service appointments with Honda service centers
  • Parking reminder – save your parking location and get directions back to your vehicle
  • Roadside Assistance
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Link – FREE

  • Access to your vehicles dashboard to check mileage, fuel level, oil life on your phone
  • Receive notifications about warning lights and maintenance reminders
  • Save favorite locations to your app to quickly send to your navigation system
Security – 12 months complimentary $89/year after that
  • Automatic Collision Notification with a live agent contact
  • Emergency call via a live agent in the event of an emergency
  • Personal data wipe that restores factory audio and navigation settings
  • Enhanced roadside assistance
Remote – 3 months complimentary $110/year after that
  • Remote start
  • Remote lock and unlock
  • Security alarm alert
  • Geofence alert
  • Stolen vehicle locator
Concierge – 3 months complimentary $260/year after that
  • Receive a live assistant to call for help with making reservations, finding nearby events and more.
*The tier levels, features, and pricing shown above should be used as a guide to understand HondaLink only. Tier features and pricing may vary by model and trim level. For exact feature availability and pricing please speak with a local Honda dealer representative or look up your desired model and year at hondalink.honda.com/#/compatibility.
 
Could this be for the new systems like on the 2018 Accord? They have an OnStar like panel. When I look at my Honda Link on the iPhone, there is no remote unlock. I called Cust Service, but they are closed early (3pm PST) for the holidays. There is no OnStar like "Call button" in our Clarity as far as I know (?) (unless it's buried in our soft menu pages), not sure we got the hardware for the option Remote-3 above? I think we got the old 2017 electronics packages, way back from the old hydrogen fuel cell days ;) (bummer).

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Accord Concierge for a car with a Honda LINK button (?)

find my car, with remote unlock, horn operation


I think I was paying about twice that for Volt Onstar, for the equivalent of "Remote - 3". (but, I don't think 2018 Clarity got any of this?) We got find my car, but not remote horn, lights, unlock, etc?
 
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Chevy will have to seriously consider dropping the price of the Volt or the clarity will eat their lunch. I also live in fossil fuel land and I think dealers are discounting their volts to move them. Unfortunately, the clarity is too new for it to be discounted at all yet, but it was still worth it to me.

My wife and I are considering both the Volt and the Clarity. At the top trim level that we are comparing, the actual advertised dealer prices of both are almost the same. We still see some advantages for the Volt:
Proven and reliable technology
better space for large items
Best electric range, larger gas tank, better total range
better handling
rear cross traffic alert
blind spot warning on both sides

The first two are the most important for us. We never have passengers in the rear, but often have cargo. For us, it is hard to decide between the two at current pricing. If the Clarity was a hatchback, it would win hands down for us. We would still be a bit worried about the unproven Honda technology, but we would take the chance. For anyone who needs to carry passengers in the rear, I would think the Honda would be a clear winner, but I don't think Chevy lowering the price a few thousand would change that
 
I think it comes down to not having an built-in integrated cell phone (like OnStar does). I think Clarity only has WiFi and Bluetooth.

Found an odd set up item while going through the menu trees: Do you want to use your Bluetooth connected phone to automatically call for help if the car detects an accident? yes / no

(Agree with Ken below abt. remote start, but are there any "lock out situations" where remote unlock might be good? Also, the find the car remotely such as in a theft situation, (needs comms like a built in cell phone) lowers insurance costs, at least at USAA).
 
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It seems to me that the issue revolving around 'remote start', is actually a non-issue. With an electric car, the option of remote start is pretty much meaningless so long as you have the ability to turn on the climate control.

Both the Clarity and my Tesla have exactly that ability. So I'd agree with Tiralc, the missing feature is the OnStar/Conceirge-like feature. To be honest, I've had that feature before on a Fusion Hybrid & Lexus and never once used it.
 
All of the steering controls work fine for me so far, no quality issues. It is a bit of a bummer that we did not get some of the advanced gadgets of the 2018 Accord. I kinda hate to admit this, but I think I might have liked the knobs on the radio.

The more I get used to the controls, I'm thinking the unrestricted steering wheel buttons / controls (no plastic covering) are nicer for operation. Also, I finally trained myself to use the volume control on the steering wheel. Now, I am less concerned about not having a volume knob at the center display. I found it very distracting to try to find that virtual slider control on the center display while driving, but the volume up/down control on the steering wheel is pretty easy to find and operate quickly.
 
I never used the volume slider on the center display. It's too hard to get a precise volume while driving. So I always use the steering wheel control.
 
Not sure where to jump in as this is my first post to a forum. Thanks to all for the breakdown on features of the Clarity in particular to jdonalds for thorough coverage.

A week ago my wife and I bought the Clarity touring PHEV to replace her 2004 Accord (230k mi). Currently on 800 mile trip and are very pleased so far. Our other car is an e-golf which we’re extremely happy with and with the solar panels we added to our house we hope to drop petroleum use to a minimum.

Question: does anyone find the turbo particularly noisy? I am wondering if ours has an issue. Even after foot comes off pedal the noise is still there. I know very little about turbos.

Separate note before I forget, I too am fine with the rear wheel covers however I foresee a potential seasonal problem. I’m not sure cables (chains) will safely fit between wheel and body.
Honda states that chains are not to be used with the clarity. They offered a different solution but I forget what it was. I think it is in the owner's manual.
 
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