Climate turn ON using Honda Link
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Richard_arch74
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Eric, in my case when the climate control is remotely turned on (using HL), with the charger in and not charging, the charger turns on. Therefore the battery is not losing any charge while the remote climate control is on and working.
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From other posters' reports, I thought only a Level 2 EVSE could keep up with the power demands of preconditioning.
Richard_arch74
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I noted the charge on the HL and in the car before I turned the climate control on. After the 30 minutes of climate control being on and the car charging at the same time the amount of charge shown on the HL showed the same amount of charge as when I started. Thus my assumption that the battery on L1 was not being depleted by the climate control working. Now that I think of it, after the test , I did not verify that the amount of charge as shown in the car was the same as what was shown on the HL. I suppose I can test it again.
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iluvscuba
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I was charging at the dealer (240V) a few days ago and turn on the pre-condition using the HondaLink app while I was sitting inside (outside temp was about 8C/48F), the car heat up to about 24C/76F after a while and maintain this temp throughout the charging period (about 1 hour). My normal temp set while driving is about 18C/64F. I actually find it a little warm for me while I was sitting in the car
amy2421
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I found that if my car is plugged in and pre-conditioning, with a charging schedule programmed it will not charge to overcome the energy depletion unless I override the schedule.
Richard_arch74
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Proof is in the pudding:
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Tested the remote climate control again (from the HL app) to see if the charging (L1) would deplete the battery. Battery EV charge prior to test was 29. After climate control was turned off (26 minutes) EV charge was 30. First screen shot is pre C.C, second screen shot is post C.C, third photo is from car.
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Thank you!
Richard_arch74
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Claritydfw
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How did you get your Honda Link to start the precondition while charging at 120? Every time I try it it says it can’t on level 1.
make sure charging is done but still hooked up
Claritydfw
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Richard_arch74
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Claritydfw, I plug the car in and it starts to charge (because the charge is less than 100%). I then push "stop charging" on the app. I then turn on the climate control and about 20 seconds later the app says that climate control is on. The app shows that the car is now charging again [emoji4]. If you want to verify that the app is telling you the truth make sure you get in the car NOT using the drivers door.
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amy2421
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Is there any way to get the pre conditioning to turn on the front / rear window defrosts? I park outside and while the cabin is comfy, I can't see out of the windows (esp rear, front clears up quickly after I get in).. since I start my drive by reversing out of my drive way it is annoying that it doesn't turn on the rear window defrost while pre conditioning the car.
iluvscuba
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I did a test this morning on battery use for pre-conditioning, different from what Richard_Arch did as I unplug the charger after it is charged to 100%.
As you can see from 1st pic, battery is 99%, 62km (38.75mi) and in-car temp is 11C/52F when I first turn on pre-conditioning using key-fob at 6:45am. The car is parked in the garage and the temp is 10C/50F.
At 6:50am, the range is 61km/38.125mi, 97% SOC, in-car temp is 19C/66F
At 6:55am, 60km/37.5mi, 96% SOC, 21C/70F.
I opened the door at 7:15am which is 30min after pre-condition (PC) starts. At that point, PC has not been turn off automatically, the HL app did not update so I don't know what the SOC was at that point but I took a pic of the dash and you can see the range is down to 57km/35.6mi.
So for me, the car's heater is pretty efficient as it raise the in-car temp by 10C/20F (from 11C/52F to 21C/72F) in 10 minutes and only lost 2km/1.25mi of range and 3% SOC. The next 20 minutes maintain the in-car temp and uses about 3km/1.875mi of range.
I will probably retest this when the outside temp is below freezing and see how much more range lost to raise the temp of the car up by 0-25C/32-77F
Edit:
Just 1 more comment, seems like the in-car temp is much higher when the car is plug into a 240V charger while pre-conditioning. I have been doing a mid-day charge at my dealer for the last couple of days and while the outside temp is about 5C/42F, the inside is at a toasty 25C/77F while the car is charging compare to what I did this morning with full battery but not plug-in at 21C/70F
As you can see from 1st pic, battery is 99%, 62km (38.75mi) and in-car temp is 11C/52F when I first turn on pre-conditioning using key-fob at 6:45am. The car is parked in the garage and the temp is 10C/50F.
At 6:50am, the range is 61km/38.125mi, 97% SOC, in-car temp is 19C/66F
At 6:55am, 60km/37.5mi, 96% SOC, 21C/70F.
I opened the door at 7:15am which is 30min after pre-condition (PC) starts. At that point, PC has not been turn off automatically, the HL app did not update so I don't know what the SOC was at that point but I took a pic of the dash and you can see the range is down to 57km/35.6mi.
So for me, the car's heater is pretty efficient as it raise the in-car temp by 10C/20F (from 11C/52F to 21C/72F) in 10 minutes and only lost 2km/1.25mi of range and 3% SOC. The next 20 minutes maintain the in-car temp and uses about 3km/1.875mi of range.
I will probably retest this when the outside temp is below freezing and see how much more range lost to raise the temp of the car up by 0-25C/32-77F
Edit:
Just 1 more comment, seems like the in-car temp is much higher when the car is plug into a 240V charger while pre-conditioning. I have been doing a mid-day charge at my dealer for the last couple of days and while the outside temp is about 5C/42F, the inside is at a toasty 25C/77F while the car is charging compare to what I did this morning with full battery but not plug-in at 21C/70F
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Richard_arch74
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Mark, I ran a test this morning to see if I could get the driver's side seat heater to come on with the remote pre-conditioning (pc). The car was at 100% charge this morning. I turned the car on with the charge cable in the port of the car long enough to turn on the seat heater and then turned off the car. I then turned on the pc (see screen shot 1). At 15 minutes of the pc being on I got into the car using the rear drivers side door to see if the light was on to the seat heater. The light was not on and the seat was not warm. I tried to turn on the seat heater, from the back seats, and the seat heater would not turn on. So . . . . no luck on the seat heater coming on while pre-conditioning.
I doubt we can change the way the car pc works. Now back to work.
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