Avoiding charging during thunderstorm
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mattheo0118
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Not sure what state you live in but in CA the OEM charger is warranty for 15 years 150k miles
K8QM
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Living in North Carolina (which is somewhere around the top 10 lightning strike states) I have wondered about lightning as my car is charged in a detached garage about 50 feet from the house. A strike to a tree could travel to the buried electrical cable or even induce a large enough voltage to cause damage. However, I came to the conclusion this Summer that trying to avoid charging even when the risk of thunderstorms was below 50% was just too onerous so I generally have not bothered with unplugging most of the time.
The question does bring up a great bunch of questions about outside charging stations, fully EV cars that must be charged, etc.
I haven't read the warranty in detail but I would guess that in most situations nothing would be covered by catastrophic lightning damage - however in that case home and/or auto insurance would come into play.
BTW I did have a catastrophic strike about 20 years ago that came in on an outside antenna and took out most every piece of electronics in the house and a second strike a few years later that came in on an incorrectly grounded cable TV entry that took out both TVs. With the proliferation of home electronics that has occurred in the last 10 years I shudder to think of the amount of damage that could occur now so I try to minimize external connections where possible.
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The question does bring up a great bunch of questions about outside charging stations, fully EV cars that must be charged, etc.
I haven't read the warranty in detail but I would guess that in most situations nothing would be covered by catastrophic lightning damage - however in that case home and/or auto insurance would come into play.
BTW I did have a catastrophic strike about 20 years ago that came in on an outside antenna and took out most every piece of electronics in the house and a second strike a few years later that came in on an incorrectly grounded cable TV entry that took out both TVs. With the proliferation of home electronics that has occurred in the last 10 years I shudder to think of the amount of damage that could occur now so I try to minimize external connections where possible.
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I use the OEM Level 1 charger daily and have it connected to a Tripp Lite ISOBAR4ULTRA Isobar Surge Protector.
https://www.amazon.ca/s/ref=nb_sb_n...te+ISOBAR4ULTRA+Isobar+Surge+Protector+Metal+
It the most robust unit I could find for 120VAC. Its rated for 12 amps output and carries a $50K lifetime guarantee against surge damage to equipment. I've been running it for a month with no issues. However, I would still disconnect the charger during an active thunderstorm as you can't be too safe.
Another approach is to have your whole house surge protected with an Eaton surge protector at the panel but this requires installation by an electrician.
BTW, all my household A/V, computers, ISP internet, wi-fi, alarm system etc.. are connected to APC UPS battery backups with surge protection. My neighborhood experiences periodic power disruptions almost weekly and the UPS keeps everything running and surge protected.
https://www.amazon.ca/s/ref=nb_sb_n...te+ISOBAR4ULTRA+Isobar+Surge+Protector+Metal+
It the most robust unit I could find for 120VAC. Its rated for 12 amps output and carries a $50K lifetime guarantee against surge damage to equipment. I've been running it for a month with no issues. However, I would still disconnect the charger during an active thunderstorm as you can't be too safe.
Another approach is to have your whole house surge protected with an Eaton surge protector at the panel but this requires installation by an electrician.
BTW, all my household A/V, computers, ISP internet, wi-fi, alarm system etc.. are connected to APC UPS battery backups with surge protection. My neighborhood experiences periodic power disruptions almost weekly and the UPS keeps everything running and surge protected.
KentuckyKen
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I have a friend who works in my dealer’s parts dept and on his lunch break he looked up as many parts as he could find that were electrical and that came to over $47,000! With labor, a lightening strike on a Clarity would most likely total it.
I alway disconnect my TVs and computers during thunderstorms but hadn’t thought about the car in the garage with that thick cable linking it to the grid. Thanks for the reminder. You might have saved me from a terrible catastrophe in the future.
This is why I love this forum. It’s chock full of great advice and money saving ideas.
I alway disconnect my TVs and computers during thunderstorms but hadn’t thought about the car in the garage with that thick cable linking it to the grid. Thanks for the reminder. You might have saved me from a terrible catastrophe in the future.
This is why I love this forum. It’s chock full of great advice and money saving ideas.
Alrighty then! Off to Amazon to buy a surge protector.
KentuckyKen
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Wow, thanks @Parja. Another great idea. Maybe the lightening of good advice does strike twice in the same place.
I’m having a solar PV system installed in Oct. and as long as the electrician is there already, it will be cheaper to go ahead and have him install a whole house surge protecter. Then I won’t have to worry about my Clarity being plugged in overnight in case I sleep they a storm.
Nice. I did some searching and came up with the same one. I couldn't find anything else that came remotely close to that Joule protection level or insurance coverage for the price.
Here's the Amazon US link for it...
https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B0000513O4/ref=ox_sc_act_title_1?smid=ATVPDKIKX0DER&psc=1
The car will most likely take damage in event of a lightning strike. It might be covered by homeowner's insurance or your comprehensive insurance.
As for surge protector, you would want to check with a lawyer to see if their insurance would cover you in the event of a lightning strike. They say your device must be used in accordance with directions ("All above warranties are null and void if the Tripp Lite product ... or if the connected equipment was not used... in accordance with any labels or instructions"), and Honda says not to use extension cords or multi plug adapters, so they might be able to weasel out of it. Honda: "Make sure you plug the charging cable directly into the wall outlet dedicated to vehicle charging". Several times they indicate it can only be charged directly from wall outlet. Meaning Tripp Lite's insurance requirements are not met.
As for surge protector, you would want to check with a lawyer to see if their insurance would cover you in the event of a lightning strike. They say your device must be used in accordance with directions ("All above warranties are null and void if the Tripp Lite product ... or if the connected equipment was not used... in accordance with any labels or instructions"), and Honda says not to use extension cords or multi plug adapters, so they might be able to weasel out of it. Honda: "Make sure you plug the charging cable directly into the wall outlet dedicated to vehicle charging". Several times they indicate it can only be charged directly from wall outlet. Meaning Tripp Lite's insurance requirements are not met.
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If that is the case EV manufacturers havent thought about this issue. Lightening strikes are fairly common in indiana.
Lightning is common, uncommon for a direct hit and nearly impossible to protect against unless you unplug the car. It really shouldn't be the concern of the car maker, instead it is concern of house.
The house should have proper lighting protection to protect the car including lightning rods, surge arrestor, and appropriate breakers. It isn't possible for the car to arrest a lightning surge as it has no path to ground. I imagine it has some suppression included, but it won't be able to deal with a direct hit.
The house should have proper lighting protection to protect the car including lightning rods, surge arrestor, and appropriate breakers. It isn't possible for the car to arrest a lightning surge as it has no path to ground. I imagine it has some suppression included, but it won't be able to deal with a direct hit.
They could have included lightening protector along with charging cable.
Rick Reagan
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I had a whole home surge protector installed by an electrician. They are available at Home Depot, Lowes and Amazon.
Exactly this, deal with it at the house level. It will deal with a majority of the strike. The in house devices people hook up all the time will only deal with minor surges, not a few billion joule lightning strike (like 2500 kWh discharge).
Carro con enchufe
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I don’t use public chargers during lightning storms
After researching for this post, I am going to install a whole house protector to reduce risk to my EVs, in Iowa we get a lot of thunderstorms.
The Tripp Lite is still useful to use for light surges, but the the whole house protection works in conjunction with it reducing the surge coming in your panel, say from a nearby strike, AC compressor starting, etc.
The Tripp Lite is still useful to use for light surges, but the the whole house protection works in conjunction with it reducing the surge coming in your panel, say from a nearby strike, AC compressor starting, etc.
weave
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Like some others have said, get a whole house surge suppressor to go into your panel box. I had one of those save me a few years ago when some truck hit a power pole near my development that sent a mega surge down the line somehow. I was the only person in my neighborhood that didn't have everything destroyed. For everyone else they spent that week calling their insurance company since it took out all electronic equipment -- TVs, computers, refrigerators, ranges, everything. For me, all it did was kill my home burger suppressor (they tend to do their job and die, but if they die, you know it protected you from some major issue)