Average consumption and driving style thread

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Well, the two measurements are very different.
The Canadian measurement is kwh/100 km. So you want to spend as little kW AS possible per 100 km driven. So the smaller the number the better.

The US measurement is miles/kWh. So you want the number big as you want to drive as many miles as possible per kWh.

I haven't seen the dashboard of a Canadian version (I haven't set my car to read kWh/100km, either) but I assume it's the same way as in Germany where they have the same measurements as in Canada.

When you accelerate the blue dashed line goes up which means you're spending a lot of energy to drive (lot of gas or electrons). That's bad, but normal when you start going. Once you reach your speed the line goes down meaning you're not spending a lot of energy accelerating any more. Now you just want to keep your speed. So the line goes down.

But if you're on a highway at high speed the line may be up again because you need more energy to maintain your higher speed because of more drag at higher speed. It's the same as with a gas guzzler.

Here in the US the line works the other way because you want a high gas mileage (electron mileage). When I let the accelerator go, the line goes up. If I accelerate, the line goes down telling me my electron-mileage is getting worse.

I hope that helped you ... [emoji6]

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Also, the car has an official rating of about 258 miles or 415km per charge.

If you divide that by your battery size (64kWh) that will show you the mileage to get that range.

So to get that range you would need about 4 miles per kWh, or about 15 kWh per 100 km.

If your mileage is better than that, let's say 5 miles/kwh (or 12.4 kwh/100km) you'll be able to go farther. And of course the other way round if your mileage is worse.

That's probably the reason for that number being smack in the middle of the blue line, which is my personal assumption. [emoji12]

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Esprit1st said:
Also, the car has an official rating of about 258 miles or 415km per charge.

If you divide that by your battery size (64kWh) that will show you the mileage to get that range.

So to get that range you would need about 4 miles per kWh, or about 15 kWh per 100 km.

If your mileage is better than that, let's say 5 miles/kwh (or 12.4 kwh/100km) you'll be able to go farther. And of course the other way round if your mileage is worse.

That's probably the reason for that number being smack in the middle of the blue line, which is my personal assumption. [emoji12]

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Thanks for all that info I got it now. I had aleaf before anf it would charge to around 150 kms but after driving about 5 kms it would show about 135kms The leaf never r ealyy showed th correct difference between miles used and l left
 
GPM432 said:
Thanks for all that info I got it now. I had aleaf before anf it would charge to around 150 kms but after driving about 5 kms it would show about 135kms The leaf never r ealyy showed th correct difference between miles used and l left
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Now my kona is almost smack on so the regen to me works great plus twice I have charged and it charged to 460 kms and it's still spot on between usage and whats left
 
I believe I read in the manual that the GPS factors in several things. But they didn't say what exactly. I wonder if it has elevation info in there, or maybe just outside temperature? I'm very curious about that.

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GPM432 said:
Now my kona is almost smack on so the regen to me works great plus twice I have charged and it charged to 460 kms and it's still spot on between usage and whats left
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The highest charge I've ever achieved was 440km at the dealership the day I picked it up. It hasn't approached 400 since then. I think the dealer fiddled with the numbers a bit for appearances sake! Still I hope to see numbers approaching that again come summer. I hope.
 
Wildeyed said:
The highest charge I've ever achieved was 440km at the dealership the day I picked it up. It hasn't approached 400 since then. I think the dealer fiddled with the numbers a bit for appearances sake! Still I hope to see numbers approaching that again come summer. I hope.
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Right now my Kona is sitting @90% soc and shows 446 km. It has been consistent (3 partial L2 top ups to 90% since purchase). Blueberry's first month birthday yesterday as I picked it up on Feb 25.
The weather is a little warmer here, but I use the heat every morning, so not a big difference in that respect. Do you drive in ecco mode or something different?
 
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Wildeyed said:
The highest charge I've ever achieved was 440km at the dealership the day I picked it up. It hasn't approached 400 since then. I think the dealer fiddled with the numbers a bit for appearances sake! Still I hope to see numbers approaching that again come summer. I hope.
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I usually charge to 90% and am showing over 400kms now at it’s a bit warmer in Vancouver! I am getting great mileage now (high 11’s and low 12 kw/100km). Should see over 500km per charge easy!
 
Vanryan said:
I usually charge to 90% and am showing over 400kms now at it’s a bit warmer in Vancouver! I am getting great mileage now (high 11’s and low 12 kw/100km). Should see over 500km per charge easy!
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So further to the thread I'm getting about 6kw per 100 km does that seem right
 
electriceddy said:
Right now my Kona is sitting @90% soc and shows 446 km. It has been consistent (3 partial L2 top ups to 90% since purchase). Blueberry's first month birthday yesterday as I picked it up on Feb 25.
The weather is a little warmer here, but I use the heat every morning, so not a big difference in that respect. Do you drive in ecco mode or something different?
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I'm in Eco all the time and set on Winter Mode. When I turn that off I'd expect to see an improvement in overall range.
 
Wildeyed said:
The highest charge I've ever achieved was 440km at the dealership the day I picked it up. It hasn't approached 400 since then. I think the dealer fiddled with the numbers a bit for appearances sake! Still I hope to see numbers approaching that again come summer. I hope.
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Lol, will definitely increase once it gets warmer there and you aren't using the climate as much, and definitely when your winter mode is off. However, it also depends a lot on your driving style and the type of driving you do. If you drive in the city and use Regen you can re-coup a lot of energy. That could lead to numbers easily in the mid to high 400's. I unfortunately do a lot of highway driving so I can't recoup as much as a city driver, thus my range is always going to be less, even if I'm in Eco/climate off/light foot. I'm getting around 380km at 90% SOC.
 
My car has consistently charged to exactly 360km of charge (@100%). I am currently in winter mode and always in Eco. I have done exactly the same trip 4 times this week, part leisurely country roads, part city, part highway. I find myself even coasting and regenning in exactly the same way at the same places, temperatures similar at 3-4°C. My state of charge upon returning home was exactly160km remaining all days - except today _ where it was 10°C. My SOC today was 186km. So temperature definitely makes a difference. But I still wonder if turning off winter mode is going to make a 40+km difference in capacity and get me up over 400km when I fill it in the coming weeks. Let alone my initial (and possibly bogus) 440km charge.
 
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So further to the thread I'm getting about 6kw per 100 km does that seem right
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Drove Vancouver to Edmonds, WA (village N-side of Seattle) Monday 25th and back Tuesday 26th. Interstate 5 both ways, with short detour to La Connor (charging & sightseeing & clam chowder) on way back north. Consumption 17.2 kWh/100 km south-bound and 15.0 kWh/100 km north-bound. Used NORMAL MODE going S and ECO MODE going N. Dry road, except for very brief sprinkles of rain and wet road south-bound. Speed usually 10 km per hour over posted speed limit; 106 kph in 60 mph zones and 122 kph in 70 mph zones. When necessary, brief bursts to 135 kph (84 mph). Five knot southerly wind south-bound and 5-kt westerly north-bound. Wind probably insignificant effect on consumption north-bound, but slightly increasing it south-bound. Tires: all-weather Nokian WRG4 at 36 pounds p.s.i. Ambient temperature was about 12˚C south-bound and 16˚C north-bound.
Lessons learned: Density of charging station network is still inadequate for long-distance travel in non-Tesla electric cars. DCFC (direct current fast charge) stations are essential, but they are still few and far between, even on Interstate 5. I did discover that new DCFC plugs will be available in early April on Lakeaway Drive, east side of I-5 in Bellingham. This will be good news for American Konas heading for the border and for Canucks shopping in Bellingham. The Kona proved to be a comfortable car for a 200 kilometer road trip. A bonus: the HUD on my Canadian car on US roads showed speed limits converted to kilometers per hour. Nice!
 
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My car has consistently charged to exactly 360km of charge (@100%). I am currently in winter mode and always in Eco. I have done exactly the same trip 4 times this week, part leisurely country roads, part city, part highway. I find myself even coasting and regenning in exactly the same way at the same places, temperatures similar at 3-4°C. My state of charge upon returning home was exactly160km remaining all days - except today _ where it was 10°C. My SOC today was 186km. So temperature definitely makes a difference. But I still wonder if turning off winter mode is going to make a 40+km difference in capacity and get me up over 400km when I fill it in the coming weeks. Let alone my initial (and possibly bogus) 440km charge.
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It will, because not only will you be turning off winter mode, but potentially the climate too. But like any good science experiment, we will all find out in the coming weeks, once you do!! I'm pretty sure you won't get 440km if you do any highway driving.
Out of curiousity, how many Km was your actual drive each of those 4 days?
Your initial number was based on the 4-6km they drove the vehicle at low speeds to load and offload the ships to get here. It was reflective of that style of driving, plus I'm pretty sure with climate off.
 
My consumption Vancouver to Mission, BC on Lougheed Highway (Highway 7) at generally low speeds is consistently 13.3 kWh/100 km.
 
Kitsilano said:
Drove Vancouver to Edmonds, WA (village N-side of Seattle) Monday 25th and back Tuesday 26th. Interstate 5 both ways, with short detour to La Connor (charging & sightseeing & clam chowder) on way back north. Consumption 17.2 kWh/100 km south-bound and 15.0 kWh/100 km north-bound. Used NORMAL MODE going S and ECO MODE going N. Dry road, except for very brief sprinkles of rain and wet road south-bound. Speed usually 10 km per hour over posted speed limit; 106 kph in 60 mph zones and 122 kph in 70 mph zones. When necessary, brief bursts to 135 kph (84 mph). Five knot southerly wind south-bound and 5-kt westerly north-bound. Wind probably insignificant effect on consumption north-bound, but slightly increasing it south-bound. Tires: all-weather Nokian WRG4 at 36 pounds p.s.i.
Lessons learned: Density of charging station network is still inadequate for long-distance travel in non-Tesla electric cars. DCFC (direct current fast charge) stations are essential, but they are still few and far between, even on Interstate 5. I did discover that new DCFC plugs will be available in early April on Lakeaway Drive, east side of I-5 in Bellingham. This will be good news for American Konas heading for the border and for Canucks shopping in Bellingham. The Kona proved to be a comfortable car for a 200 kilometer road trip. A bonus: the HUD on my Canadian car on US roads showed speed limits converted to kilometers per hour. Nice!
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That's pretty cool, so you just drove in Km/h with the adjusted speed limits as your guide?
I'm assuming you made it all the way to Edmonds without a charge, and found somewhere to charge it there?
I'm making a similar trip end of April, Seattle Premium Outlets in Tulalip seems to have some chargers, did you get a chance to stop by there?
 
E-Shark said:
That's pretty cool, so you just drove in Km/h with the adjusted speed limits as your guide?
I'm assuming you made it all the way to Edmonds without a charge, and found somewhere to charge it there?
I'm making a similar trip end of April, Seattle Premium Outlets in Tulalip seems to have some chargers, did you get a chance to stop by there?
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Here in Victoria BC charge went to 483 kms and my driving style is normal I basicly drive like i would any car but the cruise helps and paddle driving seems to work well. Drive in eco 2... 1/2 highway and 1/2 city. I'm Pleased
 
I have been getting generally 17-18kwh/100km. I assume that will improve with temperature. My concern is not so much with mileage but with battery capacity. At 100% charge and total projected milage currently maxing out at 360km I'm really starting out behind the 8ball if I ever have hopes of hitting the 415+km range.
My trips were almost exactly 200km. I'm getting 1 km for 1 km/projected range/actual distance. So starting capacity is going to be important.

I think it's very cool that the HUD translates miles to kms!
 
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