Average consumption and driving style thread

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Wildeyed said:
Ah. Okay.
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Yeah I should have explained that part better. At night if you look in the mirror you can see it reflecting around the rear windshield wiper too. In the day time if your stopped by a storefront you can see it in the store window reflection. I thought maybe it was just the third brake light on the spoiler that turns off but in the reflection you can see the 2 on the back sides turn off too when stopping using just the paddle. That’s my experience anyways.
 
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Yeah I should have explained that part better. At night if you look in the mirror you can see it reflecting around the rear windshield wiper too. In the day time if your stopped by a storefront you can see it in the store window reflection. I thought maybe it was just the third brake light on the spoiler that turns off but in the reflection you can see the 2 on the back sides turn off too when stopping using just the paddle. That’s my experience anyways.
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An interesting observation. A bit concerning as I use the paddle to stop 90% of the time. Have you happened to notice if "Auto" lights setting puts on rear driving lights? I really like Auto lights setting (and wipers too!) But I've been curious if it provides rear-end illumination while driving. I've driven for years with my full lighting system on 100% of the time.
 
I'm pretty sure it turns the rear end lights on when it turns on the driving lights. It does that pretty good, driving into a tunnel turns on the front lights. Yesterday it was overcast and it turned them on and off a couple times as well.

The top long row of lights at the front are only the day driving lights.

You can also notice Android auto going to dark mode when the headlights turn on as well as the dash instruments lowering brightness.

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Kitsilano said:
Fuel economy or electrical energy consumption can be measured in the good ol' American way, in terms of distance traveled per unit of energy consumed (Miles per kilowatt-hour). It's a natural transition from MPG used with ICE vehicles. It's even better than it was, because now we don't have the perennial problem presented by two different "gallons" existing in the USA and in the UK, the 'small gallon' the Yanks have kept using since colonial days and the 10-pound or Imperial Gallon the Brits adopted in 1824. But unfortunately there is another and globally more popular method used by most Europeans, Chinese, South Africans, Australians, Kiwis, and Canucks---one that measures energy consumption in terms of energy consumed per unit of fuel or energy consumed (Liters of fuel burned or kilowatt-hours of energy consumed per 100 kilometers). Comparing the two methods can be difficult for the algebraically challenged. Google "Fuel economy in vehicles" for handy tables. An article in Popular Mechanics claimed that the more popular method is used because it's easier to make comparisons between two vehicles when expressed as energy consumed per unit of distance. It seems that displays in Konas sent to American Hyundai dealers are different from cars going to Canada, which maintains the existence of two methods in N America.
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ADDENDUM: Today I discovered that my Canadian car can be set to show km/kWh as well as the popular kWh/100 km. Go to User Settings > Other > Consumption Settings. So if Canucks want to know what their car's consumption is in miles/kWh it's a simple matter of re-setting Consumption Setting from kWh/100km to km/kWh---these are the only possible settings on Canadian cars---so after you read km/kWh you just divide by 1.61 and VOILA!, you speak Merikan!
 
Same in the us version. You can set it to Miles per kwh or kwh per 100 miles. You can also set the whole car to kph. And probably get kwh per 100km and also set the inner scale to show miles. That way you have both speeds on the Speedo and the electron usage in the format you want.

Probably not the easiest to read, though.

Haven't played with that but saw those settings.

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Thanks for the tip about how to get both mph and kph on the speedometer (using inner scale for one or the other). That will be handy for my Vancouver-Seattle-Vancouver run next week! As Bjorn would say, "I'm going to hammer it!" (Stay overnight in Edmonds, though.)
 
Wildeyed said:
An interesting observation. A bit concerning as I use the paddle to stop 90% of the time. Have you happened to notice if "Auto" lights setting puts on rear driving lights? I really like Auto lights setting (and wipers too!) But I've been curious if it provides rear-end illumination while driving. I've driven for years with my full lighting system on 100% of the time.
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With regen brake lights, I have observed at night through my rear view mirror that there is inconsistent brake lights on regen 1, but it seems fine on regen 2 and 3. No rear driving lights with auto that we could detect. We use regular head lights all the time except at night.
 
CJC said:
With regen brake lights, I have observed at night through my rear view mirror that there is inconsistent brake lights on regen 1, but it seems fine on regen 2 and 3. No rear driving lights with auto that we could detect. We use regular head lights all the time except at night.
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I might have to resort to using the manual low beams during the day then. I can't stand not having rear illumination on, both day and night. I just feel it's much safer.
 
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Wildeyed said:
I might have to resort to using the manual low beams during the day then. I can't stand not having rear illumination on, both day and night. I just feel it's much safer.
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Your car should have rear driving lights when light stalk set at "Auto." If not, see your dealer.
 
Kitsilano said:
Your car should have rear driving lights when light stalk set at "Auto." If not, see your dealer.
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I think they are light sensitive, but we will check again. We tested in daylight and we didn't have front or rear so we concluded that they must be light sensitive as they come on at low light conditions. The daytime running lights come on the front, but as standard in Canada there are no rear lights with daytime running lights. The manual says:
"AUTO light position When the light switch is in the AUTO position, the position lamp and headlamp will be turned ON or OFF automatically depending on the amount of light outside the vehicle. Even with the AUTO light feature in operation, it is recommended to manually turn ON the lamps when driving at night or in a fog, or when you enter dark areas, such as tunnels and parking facilities."
I suspect from our experiment with auto setting that the light level has to be low for them to come on and then the rears come on too.
 
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Kitsilano said:
Your car should have rear driving lights when light stalk set at "Auto." If not, see your dealer.
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This thread made me do a little research. There is no concept of rear driving lights, other than the ordinary tail-lights that come on with the headlamps. These are not bright enough to be of any use as daytime running lights. Some cars like my old Saab have a brilliant red lamp that can be turned on in fog or snow.

Modern design has led to an increased number of "phantom cars" driving with no rear lights after dark. Back in the day, you knew your lights weren't on if the dash wasn't illuminated. Now it's more likely that the dash will always be lit, and the DTRs (mandatory in Canada) throw enough light that you may forget to turn on the night lamps. Also many people mistakenly assume that DTRs include the rear lights.

Using the Auto setting is a good idea, but this isn't meant to turn on the tail-lights during the day (if that's what you meant).

PS I see on another thread that it isn't what you meant. :-)
 
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CJC said:
I think they are light sensitive, but we will check again. We tested in daylight and we didn't have front or rear so we concluded that they must be light sensitive as they come on at low light conditions. The daytime running lights come on the front, but as standard in Canada there are no rear lights with daytime running lights. The manual says:
"AUTO light position When the light switch is in the AUTO position, the position lamp and headlamp will be turned ON or OFF automatically depending on the amount of light outside the vehicle. Even with the AUTO light feature in operation, it is recommended to manually turn ON the lamps when driving at night or in a fog, or when you enter dark areas, such as tunnels and parking facilities."
I suspect from our experiment with auto setting that the light level has to be low for them to come on and then the rears come on too.
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I think you're right, CJC. I misunderstood your earlier comment. It is, of course, very dangerous to run Daytime Running Lights (DRLs) in low light conditions as too many drivers do in the Vancouver area.
 
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Safest headlight routine seems regular headlights on all the time. That is my routine. People are pretty dozy now and they need to see red lights on the rear of a car lest they drive right into it.
 
Did a 120 mile drive on sport mode this weekend with regen mostly on 0. Drove mostly between 75 and 80mph. My average was 3.5 miles per kwh round trip.
 
Gjpzee said:
Did a 120 mile drive on sport mode this weekend with regen mostly on 0. Drove mostly between 75 and 80mph. My average was 3.5 miles per kwh round trip.
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I'm amazed about the low consumption some of you are reporting. I have assume it's all about temperature. I've never driven the car above 7°C so maybe Spring and Summer hold a nice surprise for me!
 
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Wildeyed said:
I'm amazed about the low consumption some of you are reporting. I have assume it's all about temperature. I've never driven the car above 7°C so maybe Spring and Summer hold a nice surprise for me!
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What is the average you get? My daily driving average on normal mode is 4.5. I'm in socal so temps usually between 60 to 80 F.
 
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What is the average you get? My daily driving average on normal mode is 4.5. I'm in socal so temps usually between 60 to 80 F.
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I'm hitting about 20 to 21kwh per hundred kilometres lately. Today was about 16.5/100 dry and in the sun at about 35°F. I'm not giving myself a headache trying to figure out what that is in miles though!
 
Wildeyed said:
I'm hitting about 20 to 21kwh per hundred kilometres lately. Today was about 16.5/100 dry and in the sun at about 35°F. I'm not giving myself a headache trying to figure out what that is in miles though!
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That's about 3.0 to 3.1 m/kwh. I usually get around 12-13 kwh/100km driving in normal to and from work. Although here in Vegas it's around 25C (77F) currently. I can get it even better if I use eco mode and no ac.

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