Tesla just won the self driving battle

gooki · Nov 5, 2020

Interesting that people drive to bus stations.

marshall · Nov 5, 2020

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Interesting that people drive to bus stations.
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It's not surprising since it knocks 20 to 35 minutes off the bus or train trip and the parking is free.

SouthernDude · Nov 5, 2020

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A single autonomous car should complete 2 - 3 runs during each peak travel period. That single venice can now displace between 8-12 private vehicles per day. Now add in 2 more off peak runs per day (elderly, at home folk running errands), with an average of just 2 people per run and we're looking at displacing 12-16 cars with a single vehicle.
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In no way shape or form is one self-driving car going to replace 12-16 normal cars. Not even remotely close to possible.

Recoil45 · Nov 5, 2020

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So much face palm in this thread.

Why public transit sucks in most cities of the world (outside of Hong Kong and a few others).

1. Walk 10 minutes to bus stop.
2. Wait 5 minutes in various weather.
3. Travel on bus for 30 minutes to central bus exchange, waiting at every stop.
4. Wait 5 minutes for next bus.
5. Travel on bus for 20 minutes.
6. Walk 5 minutes to destination.

Total travel time 1 hour 15 minutes.
Price $10.

Vs private car ownership.

1. Take car out of garage.
2. Drive to parking lot 20 minutes.
3. Take ticket and park car, 2 minutes. $20.
4. Walk 5 minutes to destination.

Total time 27 minutes.
Price $20 + cost of car ownership.

This is why f all people take public transit. It's often three times slower. Public transit is then typically used by people who can't own a car (can't afford it or no where to park).

Vs transportation as a service.

1. Car arrives at your house as scheduled. 0 minute wait time.
2. Car travels to destination 20 minutes.
3. Along the way three computer optimised detours are taking to collect additional passengers. 3 x 2 minutes.

Total travel time 26 minutes.
Price sub $10.

Myself and many others would happily pay double/triple to ride in my own car without other annoying passengers, at the temperature I choose, listening to the radio station I like, at the volume that suits me.

You greatly underestimate the rudeness of people. I would factor in a 5 min wait for each of your computer optimized stops waiting for people to come out of their homes.

I commuted NY area trains and NYC subways for many years. Absolutely terrible experience from a people standpoint. 3 people jammed in a ride share car would suck almost as bad.

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gooki · Nov 8, 2020

Agreed, shared rides isn’t for everyone. For those that demand privacy will be able to pay more to get it.

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