Tesla just won the self driving battle

While it appears that Tesla has made a significant advancement, it seems a bit premature to do a victory lap yet. Let's give it some time.

However, with what I've seen so far, those 100 Tesla owners (video bloggers?) may be reconsidering their order for that new Ford Mustang.

 

So FSD can drive the 'victory lap'?

I'd like to see the Cannon Ball route. Not for speed but for hands-free.

Bob Wilson

 

I look forward to seeing a video of you trying it when you get your update.

Maybe they can get George Bush jr. to hold the checker flag and proclaim mission accomplished.

 

Calm my friend. Let the market decide.

Bob Wilson

 

absolutely agree with @bwilson4web

And the surprising part of all the postings above is missing Waymo. In my neck of the woods (East valley of Phoenix), you cannot miss the Waymo Self driving vechiles, and you can even hire them like a taxi. Yes, Geo-fenced but still autonomous driven.

This article puts Waymo first, and Cruise second.
https://www.intelligent-mobility-xperience.com/5-top-autonomous-vehicle-companies-to-watch-in-2020-a-958065/

I have no idea which one is better, but the jury is till our. As @marshall say, too premature to declare victory.

 

Do you think Teslas will stop slamming into fire trucks and semi trailers at hwy speeds now?


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An early report:


Bob Wilson

 

Yes. The new FSD uses multiple frames for better object recognition vs the previous single frame detection. This will greatly help in detecting large stationary objects.

 

What about little Jane that runs out two feet in front of a Tesla to catch her ball that bounced into the street? Oh and sh is short enough the sensors can't see her, but the driver isn't paying attention because the car is in full self driving mode?

Or how about someone's cat?

Also, what happens WHEN the government or someone else hacks in and forces a Tesla to lock all doors and drive someone they disagree with off of a bridge?
Make no mistake, ALL of these scenarios WILL happen.

And if a mistake does occur, who then becomes legally responsible?

 

Well if the sensors/cameras can't see her, then I suspect you and I wouldn't see her either. The good news is that this would be rare occurrence.

Well it hasn't happened yet that I'm aware of. So this seems like just monsters under-the-bed, social media talk to me. Anyhow, the same thing could be said of Cruise and Waymo.

At this point in time, Tesla is not a self-driving car. As such, the driver is legally responsible. Note that some insurance companies my not cover you while in this drive mode. So make sure you check with your insurance company.

 

Yes, providing they have the latest Tesla self-driving hardware and software.

 

Nobody knows when full self driving will actually become a thing. Just wait and let it happen. There will probably be multiple different competitors that operate

 

The front ultrasonic sensors will detect her and slam on the brakes. BTW, there are three front facing cameras that are more than a foot ahead of the driver and about 4-6" higher. The see to the approaching sides and render what is approaching.

Cats are smarter than that but squirrels are not so bright.

Everyone in the Tesla will survive because of the excellent crash performance:
https://arstechnica.com/cars/2019/09/tesla-model-3-wins-top-safety-rating-after-acing-crash-tests/

Furthermore, the Tesla dashcam and internal log will fully describe what happened. Then everyone who initiated this will face charges of which the least is Computer Trespass.

Just as before, the driver.

Bob Wilson

 

Funny you should ask:

Source: https://www.teslarati.com/tesla-model-3-foils-worst-thieves-ever-video/

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The theft attempt started when the radio host received notifications on her phone early one morning stating that her Model 3’s alarm was triggered. After receiving the notifications, Brett went to her locked garage where she had parked her Model 3 and discovered it was missing.

Unfortunately for the would-be thieves, Brett’s Model 3 is equipped with safety features like Sentry Mode, which continuously monitors a Tesla’s surroundings when it is left unattended. Through these features, footage from the car’s suite of cameras could be retrieved.

The Tesla mobile app’s features gave Brett time to follow her Model 3’s would-be “car-nappers.” She was able to track her car through the Tesla app, unbeknownst to the would-be thieves. With the help of a friend with a vehicle, Brett was able to eventually catch up with her vehicle.
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Although there are accurate statements, some of this story has some 'dodgy' bits like 'open the sunroof.' My suspicion is a made-up story for dramatic effect. Also, leaving a purse in the car ... not in our family. Regardless, it is accurate that our Tesla App has a lot of capabilities.

Bob Wilson

 

He’s not talking about car theft he’s talking about what happens if the car is hacked/controlled while in autopilot. Having the ability to follow your car with your phone doesn’t really matter then.

I personally don’t care, but I don’t know what the risk is there or why someone would hack beyond political assassinations.

 

I actually don't get the hype around FSD. Autopilot with all the driving assist features (like FCA and blinds spot alert) that enhance safety, yes. I can see where maybe FSD is useful for the incompetent driver, or old and feeble (and those going senile) who don't trust themselves anymore to drive safely. But maybe they shouldn't even have a driver's license. The only other group that seems enthralled with FSD are the geeks who are still overly impressed with new technology and just want to play with all the latest gimmicks.

Seriously if you don't want to drive, take a taxi/Uber or a bus. You really don't need an FSD car!

 

I think the whole point of a FSD car is to earn money from it. Put enough of these FSD cars in the neighborhood earning money, then the question is more like: "Why do I need to own a car at all, or why do I need to own two cars?"

If Tesla can it done at a reasonable price, then it's game over for a lot of these auto makers.

 

Those crash tests are all done at relatively low speed.