Discussion in 'Chevrolet' started by jim, May 14, 2018.

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  1. jim

    jim Active Member

    This GM forum needs to add the SPARK EV. It was and is the most efficient and affordable Electric in the US. I have a used 2015 and it still goes 100 miles on a charge without the air cond or heating running. EVen with them on it can go 70-80 miles or more.
    The DC Fast Charging which was an option is the best in the country. It never slows down all the way to almost 100%. It always gets to 100% in 30 minutes or less even when it's almost at 1 mile range.
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  3. Cypress

    Cypress Active Member

    My 2014 with 33,000 miles seems to be down to 16kWh. But I’m getting about 80miles range.

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  4. WadeTyhon

    WadeTyhon Well-Known Member

    Interesting, sounds like it's still holding close to the EPA range. Great to hear!

    I would usually get over 90 miles in my Spark. But I traded it in before hitting 15k miles. I take it you used to get a similar range?
  5. Cypress

    Cypress Active Member

    I bought it used in the early spring last year. It was showing about 70miles range on the GOM. Over the summer that went up to about 86miles. In the winter it was down to about 60miles.
  6. WadeTyhon

    WadeTyhon Well-Known Member

    Not too bad! The good news is that the bulk of degradation happens pretty early. After that the battery is likely to degrade more slowly.

    If I remember right, SparkEV (it might have been another commentor) on the main site said he had something like 50k+ miles and was showing less than 5% degradation... and that was with fast charging regularly.

    So you can probably count on your 80+ miles in the summer for the next several years.
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  8. Domenick

    Domenick Administrator Staff Member

    A quick look shows 215 used Spark EVs out there at the moment, with prices ranging from $7,485 to $13,995. There's a 2016 outlier for $27,135 with 2 miles on it, also.
    Not too shabby. Just wish it was a little bigger (or the Leaf had a more robustly engineered battery).
  9. Cypress

    Cypress Active Member

    The weird thing is, by looking at the percent of battery used and kWh consumed, I am calculating about 16kWh capacity. The 2014 has a 21kWh battery with 19kWh usable. A 3kWh drop from 19kWh relates to almost 16% drop. My car does not have DCFC, but I charge every day on my L2 Charger. Live in a pretty mild climate.
  10. WadeTyhon

    WadeTyhon Well-Known Member

    Hmmm that seems like a much larger drop than others are seeing. Especially since you're still getting 80+ miles in the summer. You are getting about 5 miles/kWh? That's about what I would get in the spring but that number would drop when the summer or winter came around. (Summers here are 100+ degrees regularly)

    Thing is, as far as I'm aware GM never gave us the actual usable kWh of the pack. So people's reports of how much is usable is all over the place. I've seen as low as 17 kWh and as high as 19+ kWh (So I've always assumed somewhere between 85% and 90% was likely. Making the usable portion of the pack is a bit over 18 kWh)

    Keep tracking it! It would be very good to know how it continues to hold up over time. How are you calculating the kWh being used? From your charge station? From the dash? Or do you have a tool to use with your OBD port?
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  11. jim

    jim Active Member

    I thought the only real way to see the kWh used is from the Energy use screen after a full charge and then not charging to see how far and how much you have used.
    Is there a LEAFspy pro available?
    I have FleetCarma on the OBDII and it's pretty good data.I attached a screen shot of the data. Over 200 MPGe

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  13. altfuelcarguy

    altfuelcarguy Member

    We just bid our leased 2015 Spark EV farewell. Turned in at the Chevy dealer and drove out in a leased 2018 Volt. Loved the Spark, loving the Volt too. Spark's final drive, from home to the dealer, was 80 miles. Did it without recharging, and had 8 miles of range left! 21,000 miles on the odometer. It's a good one: anyone looking for a used one should keep an eye out for VIN 818972. Probably will be on the market in next few weeks.
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  14. Domenick

    Domenick Administrator Staff Member


    That's a pretty lengthy good-bye trip. Nice to see it still had so much range left.

    Good luck with the Volt. I have a friend here with the new generation as well, and he loves it.
  15. jim

    jim Active Member

    WHAT area did you turn your SPARK EV in at?
    Have you seen it on the used market yet?
  16. altfuelcarguy

    altfuelcarguy Member

    SF Bay Area, at FH Dailey Chevrolet, a dealer I highly recommend btw. Turn inn was August 13, so it will probably be at least a couple more weeks before it shows up.

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  17. altfuelcarguy

    altfuelcarguy Member

    She's now for sale at Green Light Auto in Daly City. Looks like they specialize in used EVs. Asking price is $9490. A lot of car for the money.

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  18. Domenick

    Domenick Administrator Staff Member

    I finally got to see one up close a couple weeks ago. Back seat was a bit tight (I'm 6'2"), but overall, I thought it was pretty sweet.
  19. jim

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  20. jim

    jim Active Member

    I have a hard time buying a Chevy SPARK EV on line. Almost none of the on line systems show or tell if the SPARK EV has the DC Fast Charge port. Only seems to have that as a search item. They don't seem to know a Fast Charge Port is optional on the Chevy SPARK EV and BOLT. Even the Terrible LEAF has that as optional. It should be equipped on EVery EV ! The also terrible KIA SOUL EV had it on all of their EVS. Too bad they like the LEAF didn't have standard Thermal Battery Control. The amount of deal and Wilted battery packs in the Southern USA is terrible.
  21. gaulfinger

    gaulfinger New Member

    Got ours at CarMax - they have done well with documenting DCFC.

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  22. altfuelcarguy

    altfuelcarguy Member

    Green Light Motors in Daly City (near San Francisco) sells mostly used EVs and they're very good about showing which ones have DCFC.

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  23. jim

    jim Active Member

    I checked carmax and it only had 2 with no limits to your area so it's close. It does have the DCFC search option but we have about 20 for sale in the greater PHX area they don't show and I know some have Fast Charge since I've asked.
    Below the CarMax DCFC search option.
    Quick Charge Package(1)

    2015 Chevrolet Spark EV LT

    No-haggle price$11,998*
    0 Reviews
    CarMax Boise (Meridian)
    Boise, ID
    $699 Transfer Fee + Tax to CarMax Phoenix-GilbertStock #:16131987


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