I own a Tesla Model 3. I intend to buy another EV in the next few years. I look at everything that comes out that will compete with the Model Y or Cybertruck. I like Tesla. But I'm more an EV fan boy than a Tesla one. The two things that keep me coming back to Tesla are the potential for autonomy and the ability to road trip the car. I want to focus on efficiency in this thread. If I look at the available or near available, under $80k cars, I see Audi, VW, Ford, Volvo, maybe Nissan, Kia, Hyundai and Tesla. Other than the coming Ionic and EV6, if the cars have the same size battery as a Model 3/Y, the range is not as good. If the the range is competitive, the battery is larger so the charging will be slower. I understand that many car makers, particularly legacy companies, want to make cars that are more acceptable to mainstream car buyers. Many people don't want to use an iPad to control their cars. But why are the legacy manufacturers making box like cars with horrible drag coefficients. Big flat grills are killing the road trip ability of the ID 4 and Mach E. I do a drive to near Stockton CA from near Portland Oregon on a regular basis. In my M3 AWD, I spend about an hour charging on this trip. ABRP says that the longest range ID 4 and Mach E spend over 2 hours charging for the same trip. Some of this is charging infrastructure. But lots of it is terrible efficiency for this size car. BTW. I just finished a 5000 mile road trip, in my M3. I can't imagine doing this in a Mach E or ID 4. Why to so many manufacturers do this?