2020+ (classic) Ioniq: Low-conductivity coolant crystallizing + low-coolant level warning ...

Discussion in 'Hyundai Kona Electric' started by KiwiME, Nov 16, 2022.

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  1. What a bloody mess!
     
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  3. I just hope that new pump that is required by the dealers (see TSB) gets rid of ALL the Jello through out the entire system.
    Last thing we need is a BSC-3 TSB down the road:eek:
    Edit: if a new related TSB occurs in ~ 3 more years, maybe not so bad $;)
     
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  4. Totally confused. What new pump and Jello???
     
  5. Dealers get this machine issued:
    machine.jpg Image stolen from TheSpider9319

    Filters out these particles, noting the dark area at lower-left. Don't think jello is involved, at least as best as I'm aware.

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    Last 2 images stolen from Redfast
     
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  6. Good pictures. Thanks for that.
    So just like the TSB describes- use the pump to flush out and filter the crystal debris using the old coolant from the system(s) for 5 minutes, air drain for 2 minutes to discharge. After all systems are flushed, filtered and drained... reassemble hoses etc and add the new BSC-2 product via the reservoir tank using GDS-M system (Hyundai software) to perform air bleeding for 30 minutes by circulating the new coolant through the EWP (electric water pump).
    Piece of Cake;)
     
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  8. hobbit

    hobbit Well-Known Member

    I now have an appointment at a local dealer, a month out as they can't do it any sooner. They want to
    have the car for a full day. It is a recall, and fully covered on costs. The person on the phone
    was pretty sure they'd already done at least one other car by now; I told her straight-up I didn't want
    to be their techs' first guinea pig.

    I hate having to rely on them, but this is a rather complex job with all the special tools.

    _H*
     
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  9. That's why I waited a year before getting my battery replaced and they had 8 under their belt before I rolled in last November. I was rewarded by being given the battery that had been sitting on the shelf waiting for me since Jan 2022 :rolleyes:
     
  10. I have scheduled a coolant change for the end of August with my dealer before I read about this recall on this site. They quoted me C$888. Then my AC (heat pump) stopped working. Took my car in, and also emailed them the recall info from this site. Two things happened,
    1. I need new compressor (covered under warranty),
    2. the service advisor checked my email, followed up and verified that I am eligible for a free coolant change! She asked me of want the coolant changed at the same time - today! - when they install the new compressor.

    I said YES! Did not want them to change their mind! :) Service said they have all required stuff in house. I hope this includes the special pump.

    Thank you all, this is great site, full of info.
     
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    Got the car back, with new compressor for the heat ex-changer and battery coolant flush and replacement. The work took about over 4 hours total. No charge as promised.
    After starting the car I got an orange 'Low inverter coolant' note on the dash. Went around pupped the front, the blue coolant was at Max level. Looking around the my service advisor was running out to tell me that is it OK. "Drive awhile and it will go away. Any case the technician left an almost full blue coolant in the passenger well in case I need to top it up." It did not go way until I stopped and restarted the car. Now the coolant is just over MIN level. Where it was when I took the car in.
    Good service happy customer :):):) - Hot day need a beer ore two ... :D
     
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  13. Now that's more like it, just remember to take off the reservoir cap by unscrewing clockwise. Happy it all worked out for you. :)
    One question...what is the manufacture date on your driver door frame?
     
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  14. Well, the 'Low inverter coolant' note' keeps coming on. I drove around 30km and refilled the coolant container from Min/Middle to Max about 5 times. The cooling system keeps drinking the coolant as a drunken sailor. Funny, if the car is on slight uphill (noise up) in front of my garage and I stop and restart the car, it is OK I get the green arrow. Once I drive it into garage (level) the warning comes on.
    I almost emptied the coolant jug by now. It is full now to Max, I will see in the morning what happens.
    In any case I will take the car in tomorrow a.m.
     
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  15. Do you have a heat pump? It appears like they missed a step... keep us informed if it settles out, or if they have to "do it again".
    Not good for the circulating pump(s) (if air in the system) as the RPM will increase, that sounds like what is causing the warning indicator.
     
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  16. hobbit

    hobbit Well-Known Member

    Sounds like even with all the special service procedures, it takes a long time and a lot of circulation
    to burp the last of the air out of the system.

    _H*
     
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    Yes. I have a heat pump. (I think all Kona EVs sold in Canada have them.)

    We drove about 30km last night. This morning the the 'Low inverter coolant' warning was on, the coolant level half way down between Min and Max. I took the car back with the almost empty jug of EV coolant. The service folks decided to re-purge the system. An hour later I got the car back. The warning light was off and an other jug of coolant was in the passenger foot well - almost full! I was told to drive the car for week, check and fill the up coolant if/when needed. If the low coolant light still comes back after a week take the car back to the dealer.

    Obviously they did not purge the air out of the cooling circuit properly last night. They did not allow enough time to finish the job. Also note that cars with heat pump need more coolant. See attachment. Maybe that detail was overlooked too.

    We drove about 160km today. The car seems OK now. No warning light at all. The the coolant level dropped a bit - nut much - below Max. I topped it up to Max - just in case. But I think the car will be OK now.
     

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  18. I'm a bit perplexed about this maintenance. A coolant change is called for in the service schedule so it seems like this should be a "normal" procedure for dealers. Is the "chrystals" procedure more complex than a normal one or are dealers just not very good at doing it yet?
     
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  19. Apparently some dealer techs are as well.
    In all fairness, I have not seen the CDN version of the TSB yet, however on page 3 (Vehicle Options and applicable Section Steps) Kona EV is only listed as Non-Heat Pump, so this might be one reason to skip the required steps listed in the Ionic EV - Heat Pump section.
    I am sure this will become a routine service once established the proper procedure is to follow the instructions of EVs c/w Heat Pump regardless of model.
     
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  20. That is typically why I go for a walk after dinner:D
     
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    Manufactured on June 17/2020 :) (Picked it up on Aug 31/2020)
     
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  22. Mine is Sept 20 build date, a few months after yours (the last date included in the TSB is Oct/12/21), so no problem being inclusive.
     
  23. So just to clarify: This campaign is only about BLUE coolant? I have only ever had the green stuff, in my original battery (2018) and in the new battery (2022). Am I off the hook?
     

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