2020+ (classic) Ioniq: Low-conductivity coolant crystallizing + low-coolant level warning ...

Discussion in 'Hyundai Kona Electric' started by KiwiME, Nov 16, 2022.

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  1. Check at your dealer, I would be surprised to hear any different considering the close proximity of our manufacture dates and mileage.
    I was told it is only the supply issue why the TSB will not be performed before.
    I did arrive equipped with the TSB copy, manufacture date and s/n so they could look it up on their computer to confirm.
     
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  3. navguy12

    navguy12 Well-Known Member

    You have a responsive dealer...

    Who is your dealership; who is your contact there; can you provide his/her direct contact info?

    Thanks. Cheers.
     
  4. navguy12

    navguy12 Well-Known Member

    Spoke to my dealership today, and the service advisor and I both agreed that yes, Hyundai will be picking up the tab when we bring my wife’s car in for the three year swap of the blue coolant sometime this August.

    He told me that there had been a bunch of dash board warnings on these Kona EVs when the very hot weather hit Ottawa a few weeks ago…and he told me “he” just did “another one (TSB procedure) this morning”.

    So I don’t even have to be a guinea pig.

    Tip of the hat to @KiwiME and @electriceddy
     
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  5. My coolant was changed during my battery recall a year ago resetting my maintenance schedule. Do you think that means I might not need to worry about this recall?
     
  6. navguy12

    navguy12 Well-Known Member

    My advice: go see your service advisor, have him pull up your VIN on his computer and have him search to see if this particular “service campaign” (in the words of my service advisor) is part of a pending “update service items next time the car is brought in for any routine visit” for your particular VIN.
     
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  8. hobbit

    hobbit Well-Known Member

    I gotta wonder here -- what makes coolant specifically "low conductivity"? How does the blue or green stuff
    compare to, say, the pink HOAT "long-life" stuff I used to put in the Prius? Some replacements in Konas are
    apparently getting that instead of BSC-2. What are the risks, considering that coolant isn't supposed to be
    in direct contact with the electrical system's conductors in the first place?

    Frankly I'd be more concerned about long-term corrosion protection. As well as having stuff that won't gunk
    itself up over time.

    _H*
     
  9. There were Korean automotive media articles published some years ago about some EVs unexpectedly bursting into flames some time after enduring manufacturer's crash tests, traced to coolant leakage shorting the cells. Coincidentally or not, while investigating the cause of Kona battery fires Hyundai/Kia changed to the LC coolant mid-production of the 2020 Kona. While unsuccessfully trying to find those articles online I ran across this document describing the ID4's engineering.

    Rather than use a LC coolant VW designed this problem out in the ID4, as Hyundai/Kia have in the new Niro, presumably the upcoming Kona and I recently heard the latest Ioniq 5. I'm not sure how many other EVs do this or if any others use LC coolant.

    It's not clear if this is a major real-world risk but it's certainly been clear that the LC coolant is far more trouble than it's worth.

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  10. hobbit

    hobbit Well-Known Member

    So I went to pop the cap off my coolant reservoir yesterday and peer around inside to see if I could detect
    any evidence of crystallization, and I *cannot* seem to get the cap off. It clicked past the "fully on" detent
    easily enough, but then about half a turn counterclockwise from there, the cap seems to bind so hard I
    cannot turn it any farther. It's supposed to just be a simple threaded cap, right? It didn't seem to rise up
    at all during this, either. I don't seem to have any service doc on this specifically, there's no hint that
    there's anything special about it.

    Someone willing to investigate on their own car? Does your cap come off easily?

    _H*
     
  11. herode10

    herode10 Member

    You need to turn it clockwise to open.
     
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  13. Had the same issue last year;)
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  14. hobbit

    hobbit Well-Known Member

    Well, that's just warped, but worked. Thanks all! Can't see anything obviously untoward down
    the hole, so who knows. Researching which local dealers might be competent enough to do
    a replacement...

    _H*
     
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  15. EVBirder

    EVBirder New Member

    Just back from dropping off my 2020 Kona EV Limited with the recurring "Refill Inverter Coolant" message (for past 3-4 months). The TSB might be: T9E recall 23-01-049H... the service manager is out and his assistant mentioned it now has an official accepted "recall" in effect, and gave me this number when I inquired. So, now I'm hoping to determine how to find that TSB to read it further. If anyone has suggestions, I'd love to know how to read up on it. I'm used the the doggone "ding" that repeats ad nauseum, so now want more info!
     
  16. EVBirder

    EVBirder New Member

    Bahstahn! used to pahk my cah in Hahvad yod, too!
     
  17. insightman

    insightman Well-Known Member Subscriber

    Well, now you know the qualifying question to ask the dealer's service staff: "Tell me, how do you normally remove the coolant pressure cap?"
     
  18. I have an appointment for this work (2021 Kona Preferred, with blue coolant, 51,000km+ and 3 years ownership). Dealer quoted one hour labour +parts C$888.87 taxes included.
     
  19. I would double check with the dealer. Get paper/electronic record and keep it. The last thing you want is an argument with Hyundai if a warranty issue comes up. This could be a big $$$ expense and/or a big impact on the resale value of your car. I sent all this info to my dealer - before my upcoming coolant replacement at the end of August.
     
  20. @Wildeyed car is pre-TSB date and uses the regular green (or pink now) coolant (not low conductivity) which I believe only requires replacement~ 120K Kms
     
  21. My Owners Manual Service section list 3 years or 60,000km.
     
  22. 2018 manufactured models were on a different Maintenance Schedule
     

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