2023 Cooper SE Included EVSE - "Flexcharger"

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  1. SameGuy

    SameGuy Well-Known Member Subscriber

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    My 3D-printed bracket will be up for sale soon, as I went with a Grizzl-E instead of the Flex. I also have the EasyEV holster that came with the Grizzl-E available (I installed two of their heavier-duty holsters, indoors and outdoors). The BMW-supplied bracket will be sold with the Flex.
     
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  3. nuwde

    nuwde New Member

    Salesperson said he didn't know much about it and would do some research. The next day they found one.

    Thank you all for your replies!
     

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  4. MrSnrub

    MrSnrub Well-Known Member

    Why the grizzl e. Aren’t the charging specs on the flex charger pretty much the same?
     
  5. SameGuy

    SameGuy Well-Known Member Subscriber

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    Pretty much, I reckon. But physically, the Grizzl-E is beefier, and sits solidly on the wall. I also paid $50 more to get the “Smart” version that works with ChargeLab (and possibly other apps and integrations). And finally, the charging cable is 24’ long instead of 6m (19’8”) on the Flex. It just works better for my situation.
     
  6. MrSnrub

    MrSnrub Well-Known Member

    I was looking at getting the outdoor version eventually. Once I get the car!

    Flexcharger will eventually be relegated to “spares” if I need to charge elsewhere
     
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  8. Puppethead

    Puppethead Well-Known Member

    The reason I chose the Grizzl-E was twofold: really solid internal design (i.e., rugged), and designed for subzero weather. I haven't had any problems with a stiff cable in -20 ºF or lower temperatures.
     
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  9. Nelly H

    Nelly H New Member

    My MA has show me this L1/L2 charger when I place my order in beginning of Sep 2022
     
  10. SameGuy

    SameGuy Well-Known Member Subscriber

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    Yes all the 2023s come with it, it’s confirmed. ;)
     
  11. polyphonic

    polyphonic Well-Known Member

    Only 10A on L1 is kind of a bummer. I guess they decided it’s better to err on the side of safety given the amount of old and substandard wiring in the US.

    Also the cable attaching to the wrong side is hilarious. I laughed out loud when seeing that. Really, how did they miss such an obvious flaw….?

    All in all, an excellent EVSE so far. I love the modular approach, though their prices for the plug attachments can exceed $200 (!!!). Tesla sells those attachments for $35-50.

    A little perplexed at why they chose to include such a premium charger product for free while cutting out stuff like the heated steering wheel. Different chips maybe?
     
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  13. SameGuy

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    As an aside: sadly, I absolutely can’t wait for frigid temperatures just to be able to turn on the heated wheel!
     
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  14. insightman

    insightman Well-Known Member Subscriber

    At least you have the comfort of knowing your heated side mirrors are always turned on (using how many Amps?).
     
  15. revorg

    revorg Well-Known Member

    The heated wheel brings a smile to my face in the winter. Ranked over the heated seats. Who needs a heater?
     
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  16. Rexsio

    Rexsio Well-Known Member

    Use a skiing cloves what about your bottom if heating sits malfunction ?
     
  17. SameGuy

    SameGuy Well-Known Member Subscriber

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    More tangential blah blah, but the other night I left a wedding reception around 11:30 pm and it was the first cool, fall-like evening here. It was around 50° when I walked up to my car and it was covered in condensate. As I slipped behind the wheel while pushing the Start toggle, it didn’t even occur to me I’d get heat (CC set to 70°). Before I buckled in and released the parking brake, the heat was already blowing and the glass was cleared. Alls I can say is my 29 year old Crapolla can’t do that.
     
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  18. Rexsio

    Rexsio Well-Known Member

    As heat exchange pump works so well in those temperatures 50-32’F try in 20 ‘ F and you see a difference at time you clear those windows only at ACE car you do this quite fast as they waist so much heat .
     
  19. GetOffYourGas

    GetOffYourGas Well-Known Member

    My first experience with a heated steering wheel was in my 2012 Leaf. It was also an option on my 2017 Bolt. Sadly Mini did not offer it in 2021. I would have upgraded to iconic if that was the only way to get one. I loved having it and sorely miss it now that it’s gone. When the temps get down below -20F, I would still drive comfortably without gloves. It was so nice.

    I occasionally wonder whether I could buy a 2023 steering wheel and somehow make it work with my 2021.


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  20. polyphonic

    polyphonic Well-Known Member

    I’ve never had a car with a heated wheel. They were either not optioned on the used cars, not available, or deleted because of the chip shortage. Does anyone know if the heating element guts are in the wheel to possibly add functionality later?
     
  21. SameGuy

    SameGuy Well-Known Member Subscriber

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    The switch is embedded in the column, but I have no idea if the harness is sitting there under the shroud on those cars without the switch.
     
  22. methorian

    methorian Well-Known Member

    You all talking about the heated steering wheel is really adding salt the wounds of us who had theirs cut due to chip shortages!!!
     
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  23. Tommm

    Tommm Well-Known Member

    Yep. The red base had it, and my wife after the first use said it is a requirement for her next car. I am bummed it isnt on the blue plus.
     

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