Honda Clarity Plug-In Hybrid now sold in California only?

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4sallypat said:
For non supported states, I really think it's a dealer "revolt" against the Clarity.

I know that since the 2020 model year has been indicated for Canada, it's not a model that's going away soon.

Maybe it is cheaper to drive an ICE than a PHEV in states that have low gas prices ?
Here in So Cal, our prices for fuel is $4.00 / gallon.
Makes sense for me to drive on EV.
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I think low gas prices are making it harder to sell, regardless of tax credits. Here in the Denver area there are many stations with gas at $2.15/gallon
 
2002 said:
Well at least it's something we suspect, although to parse your sentence a little bit, it's like someone can say Honda sells blue cars, which is a true statement but that doesn't mean that Honda sells only blue cars. In the same way I am quite sure that Honda does not sell all Clarities at a loss, otherwise they would not have offered them for sale in all fifty states, most of which do not have regulations that push them into selling electric vehicles there.
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I was curious about this too -- I compared MSRPs of several Honda vehicles on the Japanese Honda site vs the US one. American MSRPs are generally considerably lower than Japanese ones, although my percentages are slightly inflated because the Japanese site lists prices after taxes and the American prices are just the base price of the vehicle --
Fit S - 3% more expensive in US (Japanese version has a significant economy small car discount to taxes and fees)
CR-V EX - 12% less expensive in US
Insight EX - 36.7% less expensive in US
Accord Hybrid EX - 41% less expensive in US (this is not apples to apples though as the Japanese Accord is the 2020 version which hasn't been released in the US yet)
Clarity EX (equivalent to Touring) - 53% less expensive in US

This would seem to indicate that Honda is deeply discounting US Clarities.
 
I doubt the Clarity PHEV is sold at profit and if it is then not much of one. In all likelihood the car is for compliance and knowledge building in my option. It is my belief if Honda really wants to sell plenty of Hybrids and PHEVs they would sell them in the popular compact SUV format of something like the CRV.
 
The Gadgeteer said:
I doubt the Clarity PHEV is sold at profit and if it is then not much of one. In all likelihood the car is for compliance and knowledge building in my option. It is my belief if Honda really wants to sell plenty of Hybrids and PHEVs they would sell them in the popular compact SUV format of something like the CRV.
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That would certainly be one way they could react, though I thought they may have been aiming in the direction of upgrading the Crosstour.

I think Honda was completely blind-sided by the incredible hostility to the innocuous rear wheel aprons. It certainly shifted attention away from their engineering achievements.
 
bill_m said:
That would certainly be one way they could react, though I thought they may have been aiming in the direction of upgrading the Crosstour.

I think Honda was completely blind-sided by the incredible hostility to the innocuous rear wheel aprons. It certainly shifted attention away from their engineering achievements.
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Some of the greatest car designs in history have rear wheel spats. Citroen DS for example, considered a top 3 all-time design and is one of the handful of cars shown in MOMA.
 
Agzand said:
Some of the greatest car designs in history have rear wheel spats. Citroen DS for example, considered a top 3 all-time design and is one of the handful of cars shown in MOMA.
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I agree! The first car I ever owned was a used 1962 Citroen DS! I loved it! It spoiled me for every other car I drove until I got my 2018 Clarity.
 
RickSE said:
I never notice the wheel covers when I am driving and also didn’t notice them when I put 6.8 gallons of gas in my car after a 340 mile road trip.
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And I like them. When you see a Civic and a Clarity side by side, you can tell they are from the same styling lineage. What irks some people is that the styling is a bit unconventional. But to be honest, the Tesla Model 3- while sleek, seems increasingly dated and conventional.

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RickSE said:
I never notice the wheel covers when I am driving and also didn’t notice them when I put 6.8 gallons of gas in my car after a 340 mile road trip.
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Yup. And, eventually we all get used to the inelegant placements of buttons and icons. For instance,ECON-SPORT-DV as a row of undifferentiated buttons? Maybe it is me, but I think it is a chief cause of new drivers' confusion of driving modes vs. running modes.
 
Lowell_Greenberg said:
And I like them. When you see a Civic and a Clarity side by side, you can tell they are from the same styling lineage. What irks some people is that the styling is a bit unconventional. But to be honest, the Tesla Model 3- while sleek, seems increasingly dated and conventional.

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And- they also contribute to better aerodynamics.

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bill_m said:
Yup. And, eventually we all get used to the inelegant placements of buttons and icons. For instance,ECON-SPORT-DV as a row of undifferentiated buttons? Maybe it is me, but I think it is a chief cause of new drivers' confusion of driving modes vs. running modes.
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Its confusing because the car uses each mode in a way that is not completely intuitive- not because of button placement. For example, econ mode emphasizes battery usage, laxes pedal responsiveness, yet engaging the engine is still possible if the pedal passes the click point. Hybrid mode has two options. The gas engine only engages the wheels if...And so forth.


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What kind of battle raged within the Clarity PHEV team between the engineers, "Give them buttons to select the modes!" vs the manual writers, "Those buttons will make the Owners Manual twice as thick!"?
 
FWIW - there are two new 2020 Clarity Touring models at Fowler Honda in Norman, OK. At least 4 new Clarity's in Santa Fe, NM. So they are out there, but the pickings are slim.
 
Just got an email about 4(!) 2021 Claritys on the lot at Brown’s Arlington Honda in VA. Wonder if I should look at trading in our 2018?


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